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To: Mechanicos

EXACTLY MY POINT! Yet we have blind followers singing praises as if this were the wall that Trump has spoken of but it obviously isn’t! And he has a budget stooge come to the mic trying to sell a bill of goods to his most loyal supporters playing us for fools! This anti Trumper meme is old and tiresome. Holding to account what was promised IS NOT anti anything nor is being critical of policies that we do not support or are liberal. That is what conservatives do we don’t sell our principles and blindly cheerlead like Pom Pom dancers. That is what Obamabot supporters did for 8 years and wrecked us as a result.

This isn’t buying what globalists are selling but I won’t be a personality cultist stooge cheerleading something that doesn’t exist or played a fool.


21 posted on 05/03/2017 5:54:39 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297

To Recap:
The left has no change in the budget from before its continuing like it was, The right got parity stripped from the military spending and 2/3 of what it asked for, money to secure the border and step up the barrier the agents wanted built and school choice funded.

Sounds like we got the better part of that deal since they only got what they already had.


24 posted on 05/03/2017 6:09:56 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Jarhead9297

I admire you hairy chest-ers for your vigor, but you’re barking up the wrong tree. This CR is the tail end of Obunga’s budgeting. It’s actually something HE didn’t get finished before leaving. So, in passing this to get us to October, WE got a crack at HIS last “budget”. Trump’s first budget doesn’t happen until this Fall. If THAT ONE doesn’t measure up, THEN you have a right to be P.Od. By having our fingers in the tail end of Obloviate’s budget, we WERE able to get more $$$$ for the steel wall. And brace yourself. There may not ever be any brick and mortar wall. Border Control doesn’t WANT that. They want to be able to see through it. Bricks and mortar, per se, was merely campaign rhetoric. REALITY prevails. There will be a barricade, if you will, but it needs to be what the troops on the border WANT. Not what WE think would LOOK impressive. Get a grip!


29 posted on 05/03/2017 6:32:28 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Known as the Father of modern agriculture)
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To: Jarhead9297
"we don’t sell our principles and blindly cheerlead like Pom Pom dancers."

^^^^^ THIS !!!! ^^^

Now, with that being said and agreed, that doesn't mean we need to lay full blame on Trump - he can only sign (or veto) what Bill(s) land on his desk. We have spineless Congress-critters that won't use the power they have, and the mandate they were given, to execute on the campaign commitments that were made - both by Trump, and by them.

Where you certainly CAN blame Trump is that he has yet to take the GOP leadership to the woodshed - publicly - for not giving him a better bill to sign. I think some of this is just his personal style of negotiating (put forth a plan that you know you can't get all of, and then settle for something that is "directionally correct"). As success and wins build, he then has momentum to get more of his agenda passed, as it becomes harder and harder for Congress to resist him politically. The real tell will be when mid-term campaigning begins - will Trump push for leadership change? Will he appeal to the American people to ("give me people I can work with")?

Trump is clearly out to the right of the core of the GOP elite. If we Conservatives DON'T keep up the pressure, he'll drift to the left. If we keep pushing him AND the Congress on the Trump agenda and promises, he'll stay where he is, and necessarily begin marginalizing the GOP "moderates". Trump knows it was the active, vocal Conservatives that turned out and put him over the top in November, can are vital to a successful 2020 campaign as well.

McConnell and Ryan are acting pretty smug, assuming they can control Trump and the agenda from the Senate and House. We'll see if that stands the test of time ...

32 posted on 05/03/2017 7:17:25 AM PDT by Be Free (I believe in gun control. The more people that control their own guns, the safer we'll all be.)
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