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To: nathanbedford
Yes hundred days is an arbitrary time limit within which to judge a president. It is, however, the traditional time since Franklin Roosevelt to make judgments. In this case it is Trump himself who promised immediate action.

And he has given us immediate action on so many things whether it is TPP, the Keystone Pipeline, the enforcement of our immigration laws, the elimination of regulations stifling businesses, the appointment of a conservative SCOTUS, the reinstatement of the US as the leader of the free world, etc. The list is long and impressive as Trump undoes the Obama legacy.

Finally, why do you set up a strawman against me, I did not argue in this thread that he should have filled his campaign promises within 100 days, but I do think he should have avoided the fiasco on Ryan/Trump care and now on building the wall within the first hundred days.

Ryan was elected Speaker twice by the House with very few objections. Trump supported the House leadership and most of the members in passing the proposed healthcare bill. Trump did all the right things by being fully engaged in the process. He negotiated with the Freedom Caucus; he invited 120 GOP congressmen to the WH; he held public rallies; and he used his team to lobby strongly for the bill, including Tom Price who was supposed to be the expert on healthcare redform. Trump did his part, but he was let down by the GOP congress, not only Ryan. The GOP had seven years to develop a consensus on an healthcare alternative to Obamacare. I don't blame Trump at all for the initial failure to pass a healthcare bill. I expect that the second bite at the apple will produce a bill and it will be a better one than offered initially.

Trump never promised to build the wall within the first 100 days. He has started the process of getting bids as part of the design phase. If he waits until September to get the funds to start construction, I am OK with that. In the meantime he is cracking down on the illegals and sanctuary cities.

Be that as it may, as between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz it is Ted Cruz who has actually done something to undo Obama care while Trump supported the bill that would have etched its worst provisions in granite.

Are you referring to the Rubio bill? What did Cruz do to undo Obamacare?

28 posted on 04/25/2017 8:09:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
The fact remains that apart from a Gorsuch who by your logic should be credited to Mitch McConnell, Trump has no legislative achievement and one legislative fiasco. All the other matters, which are laudable, are done by executive action.

The fact remains that Trump supported the Ryan care bill and he did so because the essence of Ryan care complied with the specifications Trump laid out on the campaign trail. If the bill was no good Trump should not have supported it. The bill by all accounts, including 83% of the population, was no damn good.

You claim that Trump is an appropriate figure to cite about marshaling legislation, I merely point out that at least he had the balls to oppose Obama care in the teeth of fierce Rino opposition. Trump got in bed with the Rinos on Ryan care.


29 posted on 04/25/2017 8:39:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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