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To: kabar
The fact remains that apart from a Gorsuch who by your logic should be credited to Mitch McConnell, Trump has no legislative achievement and one legislative fiasco. All the other matters, which are laudable, are done by executive action.

The fact remains that Trump supported the Ryan care bill and he did so because the essence of Ryan care complied with the specifications Trump laid out on the campaign trail. If the bill was no good Trump should not have supported it. The bill by all accounts, including 83% of the population, was no damn good.

You claim that Trump is an appropriate figure to cite about marshaling legislation, I merely point out that at least he had the balls to oppose Obama care in the teeth of fierce Rino opposition. Trump got in bed with the Rinos on Ryan care.


29 posted on 04/25/2017 8:39:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
The fact remains that apart from a Gorsuch who by your logic should be credited to Mitch McConnell, Trump has no legislative achievement and one legislative fiasco. All the other matters, which are laudable, are done by executive action.

Since Obama governed thru EO, Trump was able to undo quickly many of the Obama's egregious actions. You are wrong about legislative actions. Unfortunately even FReepers are captives of the MSM narrative. Here is a list of resolutions and bills signed by Trump

The fact remains that Trump supported the Ryan care bill and he did so because the essence of Ryan care complied with the specifications Trump laid out on the campaign trail. If the bill was no good Trump should not have supported it. The bill by all accounts, including 83% of the population, was no damn good.

Baloney. Trump only mentioned a few of the most popular provisions of Obamacare would be included in the new plan, e.g., allowing "children" up to the age of 26 to be on the parents plan, guaranteeing people with preexisting conditions insurance, etc. The actual GOP plan was authored primarily by Dr. Tom Price who had proposed something similar while in Congress. It was one reason why Trump made him his HHS Secretary.

Most people never read the bill. I did. I take those polls with a grain of salt. In any event, there will be another bill offered. No doubt there will be plenty of critics who see the perfect as the enemy of the good. If the GOP wants to remain the party of governance, it must reach a consensus and then move on. Another defeat will ensure that Obamacare remains the law of the land. Then, the objective will be to amend it to make it work better, a victory for the Dems.

30 posted on 04/25/2017 9:14:40 AM PDT by kabar
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