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New Orleans Starts Tearing Down Confederate Monuments, Sparking Protest
nbcnews.com ^ | 4/24/2017 | unknown

Posted on 04/24/2017 5:49:29 AM PDT by rktman

New Orleans officials removed the first of four prominent Confederate monuments early Monday, the latest Southern institution to sever itself from symbols viewed by many as a representation racism and white supremacy.

The first memorial to come down was the Liberty Monument, an 1891 obelisk honoring the Crescent City White League.

Workers arrived to begin removing the statue, which commemorates whites who tried to topple a biracial post-Civil War government in New Orleans, around 1:25 a.m. in an attempt to avoid disruption from supporters who want the monuments to stay, some of whom city officials said have made death threats.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; bluezones; dixie; heritagenothate; historyerased; monuments; nola; purge
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To: FatherofFive

They’re trading history for fake history.


21 posted on 04/24/2017 6:28:14 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Original Lurker

They’ll be no more hated then deep Southern latter-day Johnny Rebs hate us “Yankees’’.


22 posted on 04/24/2017 6:31:25 AM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: rktman

Hopefully Landrieu won’t be around for that. 70% of the people were against removing our history. That didn’t stop Landrieu and his future ambitions. He is a lousy Mayor and he is as liberal as his useless sister Mary. I hope the city of New Orleans will make him pay politically. But I have a feeling old mitch has bigger plans in DC. In New Orleans black and whites get along for the most part. We party together in Jackson Square and never once in my lifetime have I ever heard a black say they were offended by our statues. mich took lessons in fracturing peace and promoting hatred and rasism from Obama. Get him out New Orleans - fight!!!!!


23 posted on 04/24/2017 6:32:38 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

When I lived in the vicinity and worked in NOLA, seldom were there any issues between the races. Lots of years there between ‘68 to ‘87 so yeah, I saw a lot of changes over those years.


24 posted on 04/24/2017 6:35:28 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Where are our paybacks? Oh, and not to mention the tens of thousands of white folk that gave their lives during the Civil War for their freedom.

We have all been taught this, but an examination of the facts reveal that nobody invaded the South to free the slaves. They invaded the South to "Preserve the Union." 18 months after the war had began is when they started talking about freeing slaves, but only those slaves in the states held to be in "rebellion."

There was no talk of freeing the slaves in the five slave states that remained loyal to the Union.

The war was not began to free slaves. It was began to stop the Southern states from becoming independent of Washington D.C.

25 posted on 04/24/2017 6:36:39 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rktman

Gotta get those things down before the JazzFest crowds arrive! /sarc


26 posted on 04/24/2017 6:37:45 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: DiogenesLamp
There was no talk of freeing the slaves in the five slave states that remained loyal to the Union.

That is simply not true.

27 posted on 04/24/2017 6:42:59 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: FatherofFive

“Yankees May Come Again”

The second invasion of the South by northerners is already happening.

Millions of Yankees are invading the south, bringing their liberal craziness with them and demanding the removal of southern history..


28 posted on 04/24/2017 6:43:08 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: jmacusa

I was based for 16 years out of Massachusetts.
Witnessed it first hand.

Have a good one!


29 posted on 04/24/2017 6:46:03 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: rockrr
That is simply not true.

The American Civil War ended in 1865. April 9, 1865. In Kentucky, slavery legally ended on December 18, 1865, when the 13th Amendment went into effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_Kentucky

Slavery lasted 8 months longer in the Union than it did in the Confederacy.

30 posted on 04/24/2017 6:50:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“They’re trading history for fake history.”

One more step on the transition of our culture from the great melting pot to racial and ethnic tribalism. Concurrent with the ascendance of globalism over nationalism.

We are being driven into a global society where our identity in the global community is defined by tribe, not country of origin. Dominant tribes will define standards of behavior and determine the acceptable history and symbolism.

Genocide and slavery are characteristics of societies where identity is defined by tribal group. Look at the centuries old conflict between Shia and Sunni Muslims. Look at the deadly struggles in Europe between Catholics and Protestants. Witness the near extermination of Native Americans by Caucasian invaders from Europe. Slavery in the southern United States is another manifestation of tribalism.

It is ironic that the elites championing multiculturalism are intent on destroying the pluralistic society which began developing during the 19th century in the United States and had the potential to be fully realized in the last quarter of the 20th Century had the initial concept of the Civil Rights Movement, a color blind society, been achieved. Instead, the thought leaders of society embraced a segregated multicultural and anti-white society while politicians hyped racial and ethnic divisions.

The end game of our current path will be descent into another dark age where history and civilization will be lost and tribes will battle each other until one achieves dominance.


31 posted on 04/24/2017 6:53:01 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: rktman
Here's a native New Orleanian's POV. Never, in all my years, have I ever heard anyone say they were 'offended' by statues.No, not even black neighbors and co-workers.Most have never noticed/cared about them-or even know WHO they represent!
Those statues aren't responsible for the decay of N.O. Those statues don't kill every night, and when they are gone the 'offended' will STILL rob and murder.Not one thing will be improved by their removal. The militant proponents of destroying everything THEY find 'offensive' have already said they want Jackson Square renamed, streets and schools renamed, ANYTHING white with a connection to 'oppression' gone. They proudly admit this is just a START.
I fully expect the Square to be rededicated to Jesse/Michael Jackson. The Lee statue should be replaced with one representing the current N.O.: a scowling thug with a gun standing beside a pregnant baby-momma, surrounded by her children. THAT would be a relevant monument most of the current residents would admire. So- what the hell-take'em down! Surely everyone will be safer. It's easier to attack dead white people's statues than to deal with the heavily armed feral blacks who control the city. They shoot back. When all the 'offensive' statues and street names are gone there will STILL be thugs preying on clueless tourists and executed bodies in the streets. It doesn't matter anyway- N.O. is decaying, sinking and one hurricane away from total destruction. The Gulf of Mexico will take care of all 'offenses'.
32 posted on 04/24/2017 6:54:27 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: Original Lurker

I live in NJ. Two of my brothers went to a small Catholic college in North Carolina back in the ‘70’s and early ‘80s, a little called Belmont Abbey outside of Charlotte. It was there that they learned the only thing that ever ended concerning The Civil War was the shooting.


33 posted on 04/24/2017 6:55:19 AM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: smalltownslick

“Gotta get those things down before the JazzFest crowds arrive! /sarc”

That crowd will be a little bit smaller this year, and a couple of grand that I know of won’t be spent there this year. FONO. No more Chocolate City for me.


34 posted on 04/24/2017 6:57:21 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: DiogenesLamp

The North fought to preserve the Union and won. The South went to war to preserve slavery and lost everything. Don’t you ever get tired of being an idiot?


35 posted on 04/24/2017 6:58:22 AM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: rktman

Removed at 1:00am, by workers wearing bulletproof vests, riot helmets, and scarves covering their faces..... Yeah, sounds like they’re doing the right thing.... Cowards.


36 posted on 04/24/2017 7:00:14 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: jmacusa
The North fought to preserve the Union and won.

The North fought because Abraham Lincoln ordered them to fight. Lincoln ordered them to fight because an independent South represented a huge financial threat to his government and the financial interests of his New England/New York backers.

The money tells the truth. You can keep repeating your claims of some great moral crusade, but the real and demonstrable truth is MONEY. Greed was the cause of that war.

37 posted on 04/24/2017 7:03:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: rktman

Meanwhile, there were a number of free blacks in Louisiana who owned slaves prior to the Civil War.


38 posted on 04/24/2017 7:04:10 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: rktman

Actually, I think the plan is to replace Lee with Martin Luther King and instead of Lee Circle they are going to call it Circle K.


39 posted on 04/24/2017 7:05:43 AM PDT by Rummy2
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To: rktman

Actually, I think the plan is to replace Lee with Martin Luther King and instead of Lee Circle they are going to call it Circle K.


40 posted on 04/24/2017 7:05:43 AM PDT by Rummy2
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