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End the Income Tax
Townhall.com ^ | April 24, 2017 | Katie Kieffer

Posted on 04/24/2017 4:46:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Mr. Douglas; Kaslin

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The only way we’re getting rid of the federal income tax is a collapse of the federal government itself.
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$20T+ in debt, $120T+ in unfunded liabilities, QE 3+, ‘rules\regs’ out out the wazzoo and 50.x% not paying a dime of income tax....

Who’s got the pool going on just how long the ‘democracy’ facade continues??

‘Til they confiscate (steal) the 401K/Roths? IMO, more people would voluntarily slap on the shackles if they thought they’d be cared for like property...just look at the welfare system.


41 posted on 04/24/2017 11:27:55 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

Yup. It’s why I moved from Seattle to a farm in rural KY in 2011..


42 posted on 04/24/2017 11:34:03 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: Mr. Douglas

The IRS are like aliens.
They like to probe you... : )


43 posted on 04/24/2017 11:48:00 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Principled

10% tax across the board. No exceptions. Free rides must end.


44 posted on 04/24/2017 1:12:14 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Taxman

“We will never be a FRee people so long as we have and income tax and an IRS!”

You’re dead on, absolutely right, yet even though the income tax is more than a century old, just a few years ago I was attacked on FR any time I suggested that this is NOT a free country! I notice that such statements are not attacked so vigorously now. I pray that the Donald can change things and he seems to be working hard to do so but I don’t know how freedom can be restored when it appears that the majority of Americans, even those who claim to be freedom loving patriots, don’t seem to have a real concept of freedom. Most would accept something far more restrictive than our actual constitution will allow and call it freedom even though it is far removed from true freedom.

I will see my 73rd birthday in five weeks and while the situation during my childhood was far better than now nothing close to real freedom has existed in this country during my lifetime. Those who think otherwise either lack knowledge or have a vastly different idea of freedom than I have ever had.


45 posted on 04/24/2017 1:12:27 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Isn’t it amazing that that same 13 percent insist that they are the oppressed victims of white racists who enjoy something called “white privilege”? Every day I search for my white privilege and cannot see a sign of it anywhere.


46 posted on 04/24/2017 1:16:44 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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To: RipSawyer

Lying and conning is part of African culture. Multiculturalism provides support for diversity, which, of course, is our strength.


47 posted on 04/24/2017 1:29:28 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Little Ray

As I understand it selling USED goods would not require paying the tax. No doubt some would try to sell new without paying but at least you would be able to go to the flea market as often as you liked to sell used stuff without being taxed. I hate the crazy sales tax on used cars in this state, if you want to sell your old vehicle to your neighbor he has to pay the same sales tax rate as on a new vehicle and since there is a cap on the tax on a new vehicle someone buying a beat up used car may end up paying the same amount in sales tax as a rich person buying a new Ferrari.


48 posted on 04/24/2017 1:31:40 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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To: central_va

WEll, my FRiend, you are there.

The FAIRtax IS a 23% import duty, albeit paid at the retail checkout counter! And, it is legal by GATT definitions!

That is just one of the beautiful features of the FAIRtax.

Please! I implore you, go to https://www.fairtax.org and read all about it!


49 posted on 04/24/2017 1:35:13 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

FAIRtax ha no exemptions nor exceptions.

FAIRtax will be levied on all retail sales of new goods. Used goods will not be taxed.


50 posted on 04/24/2017 1:37:15 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Principled

FRom you lips to Trump’s ear, Principled!


51 posted on 04/24/2017 1:38:14 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Greeeeeen Acres is the place to beeeee!!!


52 posted on 04/24/2017 1:42:45 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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To: Kaslin

You may not agree with an income tax but to say it is unconstitutional is a bald face lie. A constitutional amendment was past therefore it is constitutional. That is how our constitution works.


53 posted on 04/24/2017 1:44:09 PM PDT by OIFVeteran
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To: Little Ray

There is, of course, no question that the FAIRtax is far and away a better tax than ANY income tax!

FAIRtax will be administered by the individual states, who are, trust me, EXPERTS at chasing down cheaters. I don’t expect cheating to be a major problem with FAIRtax.

There are five states without a sales tax: Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon. They have the choice of “harmonizing” their tax structure with the FAIRtax or of allowing the Fed to administer the tax. I predict that they will all implement a state sales tax.

I further predict that the states that currently have a state income tax will abolish their income tax and likewise “harmonize” their taxes with the FAIRtax.

States and businesses will be compensated for collecting the FAIRtax which will eliminate the unfunded mandate which the income tax currently imposes on businesses and individuals.

And, the IRS will shrink in size to the point that all the Feds will have to do is count the money!

It will also be renamed!


54 posted on 04/24/2017 1:49:45 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Taxman

A fair Tax doesn’t favor domestically produced goods. That is why a tariff is necessary. To promote domestic industry.


55 posted on 04/24/2017 1:50:34 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RipSawyer

The income tax fundamentally altered the relationship between the American people and the government.

Prior to the 16th Amendment being passed, We the People were the masters and the government was our slave.

Subsequent to passage of the 16th, We the People became slaves. And, you are correct, very few realized what had happened. The only discussion we have been having since 1913 is what percentage slave are we?

We fought a Civil War (well, The War of Northern Aggression!) over slavery. It seems to me that the form of slavery we all have had to endure since 1913 is worth fighting to end!

That master/slave relationship will flip back in favor of We the People when FAIRtax is the law of the land!

I’ll be 76 in two weeks. Been advocating for the National Retail Sales Tax since April 17, 1991. FAIRtax is at the top of my Bucket List!


56 posted on 04/24/2017 2:03:02 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: RipSawyer

True, but folks will try to buy wholesale (no tax) and sell as used (no tax). How will someone track that? And it will need to be tracked.
There, will, unfortunately, still be a role for the IRS.


57 posted on 04/24/2017 2:10:19 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: OIFVeteran

I believe that is a matter of opinion if the income tax is constitutional or not as it was not established until 1909 and not by the founding fathers


58 posted on 04/24/2017 3:12:02 PM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: central_va

The FAIRtax levels the playing field between domestic and foreign goods.

It is called FAIR TRADE!

I am most definitely NOT in favor of laws that discriminate either for or against American goods!

America can compete with ANY country on price, quality and availability of goods, and that should be the criterion.


59 posted on 04/24/2017 6:50:47 PM PDT by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Taxman
I am most definitely NOT in favor of laws that discriminate either for or against American goods!

Then you are being an idiot.

60 posted on 04/24/2017 6:52:54 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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