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95% engineers in India unfit for software development jobs, claims report
PTI ^ | 4/20/17

Posted on 04/20/2017 6:32:14 AM PDT by markomalley

Talent shortage is acute in the IT and data science ecosystem in India with a survey claiming that 95% of engineers in the country are not fit to take up software development jobs.

According to a study by employability assessment company Aspiring Minds, only 4.77% candidates can write the correct logic for a programme -- a minimum requirement for any programming job.

Over 36,000 engineering students form IT related branches of over 500 colleges took Automata -- a Machine Learning based assessment of software development skills - and over 2/3 could not even write code that compiles.

The study further noted that while more than 60% candidates cannot even write code that compiles, only 1.4% can write functionally correct and efficient code.



"Lack of programming skills is adversely impacting the IT and data science ecosystem in India. The world is moving towards introducing programming to three-year-old! India needs to catch up," Aspiring Minds CTO and co-founder Varun Aggarwal said.

(Excerpt) Read more at gadgetsnow.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: h1b; india; software; technology
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To: jdege
The unpalatable truth is that most people can't become effective computer programmers, and getting a degree in computer science doesn't change that.

And the really unpalatable truth is that the Left has sold state and local governments on the idea that they really don't need all of those dirty, old factories any more - that with enough student loan money everyone can go to college and sit in a nice, clean cubicle writing code and increase the tax base in an environmentally friendly way.

Since 95% of coding is dependent on one's innate ability to recognize patterns, steal them, and adapt them, they are in for a dreadful disappointment when the 85 IQ crowd with newly minted college diversity degrees proves incapable of even operating the office copier. :)

41 posted on 04/20/2017 7:10:40 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: AppyPappy

“That’s why God made Google. All my VBScript programs were purloined.”

Nothing wrong with using open source code ... as long as you understand what it is doing.

But when you pay for coding you expect it to belong to you and you only unless you allow it to become open source.


42 posted on 04/20/2017 7:12:58 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: COBOL2Java

A one trick pony huh? I’ve seen a lot of them. The resume says 5 years of experience when it means 1 year of experience 5 times over.


43 posted on 04/20/2017 7:13:49 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: COBOL2Java

We avoided interactive web apping with our big project. It introduces a creeping slowness as the data gets larger. Spit out the data into an array and let Javascript deal with it.
We do all business logic with PL/SQL called from Java in both batch and when we build the web page.


44 posted on 04/20/2017 7:16:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: markomalley

My husband has said Indian IT workers don’t accept direction or criticism well.


45 posted on 04/20/2017 7:18:10 AM PDT by kalee
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To: bigbob
The biggest problem was they were “book smart” but had absolutely no practical knowledge ...And they preferred to argue academic points and recite what they’d been told at IIT than listen

Exactly so..................

46 posted on 04/20/2017 7:19:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: TexasGator

When I retire, I’m taking all the code with me to use for examples. I can’t remember this stuff anymore.

About once a month, I have to write an SQL against a SAS dataset and I have to search for the syntax every time.


47 posted on 04/20/2017 7:19:52 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: markomalley
only 4.77% candidates can write the correct logic for a programme

"Correct" logic? Obviously, getting the right output from the expected input is important, but I think HOW you get there is a bit subjective. There's obviously something to be said for writing a program efficiently, but given processing speeds and available memory, I'm not certain that efficient programs are nearly as important any more.

In my experience with them, overcoming the language barrier is the biggest challenge in working with Indian IT workers. They will not be able to collect requirements, so you'll have to do that for them. You may also have to do the software design as well, and that may involve writing pseudo-code in so detailed a fashion, you might as well be writing the software for them.

48 posted on 04/20/2017 7:20:39 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: kalee

It’s their ‘caste’ system roots. They have to look down upon others not in their caste. To be reprimanded or corrected by another is shameful................


49 posted on 04/20/2017 7:21:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: WKUHilltopper

I always respond by saying my windows are clean and working fine.
(How’s the weather in Bombay ?)


50 posted on 04/20/2017 7:24:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: kalee

If you work for one, they give it well.
They don’t but some of that is due to American IT people talking down to everyone. Our Tech Support listerv is a running “oneupmanship” all the time. TechnoBill on steroids. Not only that, schools are more competitive over there.

We had a programmer who played college hockey and we had to restrain him from punching out a mouthy systems geek.


51 posted on 04/20/2017 7:25:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The "creative economy" can bring a lot of money into a community, but it is inherently concentrated in the small group of creative producers.

Leftist planners who'd bought into the idea are finding that it significantly increases inequality.

As is usual, what the left wants is mutually exclusive.

Inequality in the Creative City: Is There Still a Place for “Old-Fashioned” Institutions?

Creative class theory, now a mainstay of local economic development policy, has a dark side: Cities that have a larger creative talent pool are also likely to have greater income inequality. Richard Florida, in acknowledging this disturbing trend, has assigned a new role to the creative class—helping low-wage service sector employees harness and express their creative energy and talent. In this article, the authors explore the complex relationship between creative workers and earnings inequality in the context of the broader urban economy. Drawing on this analysis and an expansive body of literature on urban income inequality, the authors propose an alternative set of policy actions aimed at mediating creativity and inequality through a deepening of traditional labor market institutions and legislative supports. In contrast to claims that these are obsolete solutions in the new economy, the authors argue they are necessary for the long-term sustainability of the creative economy.

The authors, of course, think the more government is the fix to the problem that more government created.

52 posted on 04/20/2017 7:25:25 AM PDT by jdege
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To: Red Badger

Knowledge vs wisdom. Wisdom is the proper application of knowledge based on experience.


53 posted on 04/20/2017 7:26:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Snowybear

That’s three more than I’ve met in just as many years.


54 posted on 04/20/2017 7:30:00 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: jdege

I’ve been programming for 30 years(15 years java) and it took me 10 minutes to type and compile a fizzbuzz program. I guess I don’t get the job. LOL.


55 posted on 04/20/2017 7:34:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; All

Yes but you would at least change the syntax and retest the program expecting different results.

Boy, there has been a lot of change in the IT world since I dated Grace Hopper and they shot JFK down in Dallas. I’m finally retired and not missing it, although I have to fight the urge to dabble with LINUX every once in a while.


56 posted on 04/20/2017 7:42:19 AM PDT by Texicanus (GOD bless Texas and the USA)
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To: AppyPappy
We taught them to speak Southern at Wrangler.

I was in a quick stop yesterday in Simpsonville (a/k/a Bartstown) SC. Stopped in to grab a soda pop. Behind the counter, I hear a "how y'all doin'?" Didn't think anything about it.

When I come up to the counter, I see the person who asked me "how y'all doin?" looked like he just got off the boat from Bangalore. Sounded like a total native who'd lived in the Upstate since the mills were here. Didn't look that way...

57 posted on 04/20/2017 7:46:22 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Texicanus
Apparently these socially incompetent code guru's that give interviews expect a perfect compiled code the first time or you are an idiot and need not apply. They expect someone to remember the syntax to "modulo"? I mean how many programs do you write that need "modulo"? I had do google it so I guess the 30 seconds I spent on the web googling "modulo java example" would have gotten me shown the door.

So if I get treated like this and I get the job it adds $20.00/hr to my asking hourly wage.

58 posted on 04/20/2017 7:50:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I typically ask them where they’re calling from...and usually they say “Florida”. Then I ask, “You’re right next to Colorado then?” And the ignorant thieves mostly say “Yes”.


59 posted on 04/20/2017 7:50:55 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Judging from the accents, I’d guess the calls come from somewhere in India.


60 posted on 04/20/2017 7:52:44 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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