Posted on 04/18/2017 10:50:44 AM PDT by nickcarraway
There is evidence all over the place that the extermination camps were no secret to anybody. This was known in the earliest days of the origination of the camps..
The pope and the "neutrals" in Switzerland and Sweden were actually complicit in their non-action when the information was made available to them.
What could the allies do about them? Nothing until they physically overran the territory where the camps were located. Eisenhower actually demanded an entire army of eyewitnesses because he knew there would be future denial that this holocaust ever occurred. Stalin could have cared less. He killed as many or more people in his reign of terror.
There was no way anyone could bring social pressure on Hitler to shut down the camps. Speculation on that is just dumb
Yes! Allies knew from the very start, as did the German public.
Impossible to keep this horror secret for very long.
there are a lot of people in this country who belong in camp. Camping builds character. We should take up a fund
We knew that to get them out would require men on the ground and substantial logistics to get the prisoners to safety. Bombing the camps would only have killed more Jews and Christians as well as would have probably caused the German to exterminate the remaining inmates.
The Germans were tough, smart soldiers. Beating them in the war was a difficult task.
Sometimes you have to use the least awful plans to get the job done.
Didn’t you feel a tug on your leg?
We sent men to the moon and brought them back on not much more computing power than slide rules.
Sheer folly, that we could have done anything more than we did under the circumstances.
If you're ever in London, make a stop at the Cabinet War Rooms museum, the underground bunker where Churchill and his staff oversaw war operations. An amazing place.
I definitely agree with that. I believe those ships were before the date this claims the allies knew. Sill, enough was known at that time to make it a moral imperative. Even Dominican dictator Rafael Trujillo was taking in many Jews and othes.
If you go to the page where the link for the story is, at the top of the web page is a banner that states "Fast Forward - Quick Reads through a Jewish Lens.
I understand this and perhaps the motives behind it and my conclusion is there is some political reason NOW for it. Don't know what it is, but there is something behind that than just some supposed 'revelation' that we all-of-a-sudden found this out. Our parents and grandparents did their damned level best to right this world and it is offensive to use this NOW, this way,for whatever reason. These people make the mistake of trying to keep the new generation apprised when the generation and the one after that who knows what happened are still alive. Just damn.
I don’t believe that.
Excellent point!
It’s one thing to not allow a group in a country club, it’s very different thing to round up that group and systematically gas them.
Post of the thread.
There was concern at the time we might lose the war - I had two uncles who fought in World WarII... no one was ‘holding back’ because they didn’t think it was horrible enough.
If they were are allies, they would have declared war on Japan the day we started helping them. Instead, we gave them until three months after the war ended in Europe. And, surprise! The second Russia invaded Japan, Japan surrendered. I’m not saying Japan would have surrendered in 1942, but the fact is their real fear was Russia entering the war.
Removed tag line.
If I had a bucket list, visiting Normandy would be on it.
During my tour in Germany, I visited a number of battle sites, in addition to visiting Flossenburg and Dachau.
What I'd really like to do is spend 6-8 weeks back on the Mosel, and dig into the ancient Roman sites. Romans were a major influence up until the 8th or 9th Century.
I lived in Traben-Trarbach for four years, and learned only recently it was the site of one of John Churchill's (Duke of Marlborough) victories during the Battle of Blenheim campaign in the early 1700s. Never saw any historical markers...not surprising, he was a Brit, and the French and Germans fought over the area for centuries.
You got that right.
Jew were disliked and hated in just about every country in the world at that period of time.
I was alive during WWII and saw it first hand.
That was the way it was in his country also.
If the Germans wanted to tie up resources killing Jews, that was less effort and resources they could put into killing our service people.
Why stop it, since every US family had members fighting in WWII; and risking their lives to save German Jews wouldn't be considered an option in the 1940s. -Tom
“but in the end did little to stem the bloodletting.”
Is she serious here? How many 10’s of thousands died?
What is the point of this? Jews attempting to bring more division to us?
Thank you
I don’t believe that crap for a minute. I am very acutely confident neither of my southern parents would have abided that.
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