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Widow wants hollow-point bullet ban
Journal Times, Racine , Wisconsin ^ | 16 apr 2017 | Jon Brines

Posted on 04/16/2017 7:24:07 AM PDT by rellimpank

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To: Purdue77
Perhaps Hornady should put a warning label on the box that forewarns people like me that jhp ammo don't explode. (s/)

They could call it a "trigger warning."

61 posted on 04/16/2017 8:47:15 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: rellimpank
NO!

Your move ...

62 posted on 04/16/2017 8:49:32 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: skimbell
"...“I talked to medical people who said they would be more likely be able to save the victim of a regular bullet than a hollow-point bullet because they’ll explode in the body..."

Don't bet the farm on that one if my pal Sluggo is loading and I'm the shooter.


63 posted on 04/17/2017 3:22:27 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Paladin2

I’m in favor, and agree with Tufte: PowerPoint is Evil

https://www.wired.com/2003/09/ppt2/


64 posted on 04/17/2017 3:29:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: archy

105 HEAT?


65 posted on 04/17/2017 3:31:01 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: tumblindice
I’d like to have a Panther tank, but that’s not gonna happen either.

Make it a Jagdpanther with the 88mm main gun instead of the 75, and I'll go in halfies with you.


66 posted on 04/17/2017 3:31:38 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: FreedomPoster
105 HEAT?

Well, when you care enough to send the very best, SABOT might be called for. but they don't explode in the body as good.

67 posted on 04/17/2017 3:35:09 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

I guess the holes in the side are more proof of the old adage that anything worth shooting is worth shooting again.

What museum? And related, is all the old armor from Knox on display down at Benning yet?


68 posted on 04/17/2017 3:40:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So she would have no problem if her husband had been murdered with a FMJ bullet?

Too bad her husband didn't have his own handgun, preferably one loaded with hollowpoint bullets. He might not have been able to save his own life, but could have taken his attacker with him, and prevented any future murders by the same perp. I guess maybe her hubby was a drug addict or mentally defective and so prohibited from carrying/possessing firearms. That could also explain his choice of spouse.

I wonder if he made little bleating squeals like a sheep being slaughtered when he was killed...baaaa, baaa! Please don't kill me! I'm a GOOD person....baaaaa...Oh no!

69 posted on 04/17/2017 3:44:40 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: rellimpank

My hollow points are only designed to stop a threat.


70 posted on 04/17/2017 4:01:55 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: FreedomPoster
I guess the holes in the side are more proof of the old adage that anything worth shooting is worth shooting again.

Possibly. Possibly also a suggestion that it may have been easier to put those holes in the sides of the JP than through the frontal armor. Unless they were using hypershot.

What museum? And related, is all the old armor from Knox on display down at Benning yet?

JP 01 is at the Imperial war Museum, details *here*. As for the Patton Armor Infantry Support Museum collection, I don't know. Last two times I was down that way [for the Knob Creek MG shoot] I didn't even bother to stop by.

If you're ever in the neighborhood, give the Indiana Military Museum at Vincennes a checkout, the town was the site of one of the most critical battles of the American Revolution, and its collection and adjoining park reflect that, though there's no shortage of aircraft and armor as well. I was one of the initial rebuilders of their M4A1E8 Sherman, used in the first Blues Brothers movie, and have been digging up T34 parts for one of their newer acquisitions. We need track links....


71 posted on 04/17/2017 4:08:17 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: BobL
She looks like she went to the University of Wisconsin, which would explain her stance on the Second Amendment.

I'd also wonder if he didn't have a gun because of her stance on the Second Amendment, didn't want him to have one, and her *opinion* helped get him killed.

72 posted on 04/17/2017 4:12:34 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

Perhaps some North Korean ones will soon come on the market?


73 posted on 04/17/2017 4:26:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: archy

Oh, and further, my understanding is that all or at least most/the vast majority of the armor is gone from the Patton Museum, and what is left is just the Patton items. It was relocated to Benning, but was not on display.


74 posted on 04/17/2017 4:29:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Referring to Pattons museum in SoCal.?


75 posted on 04/17/2017 4:35:48 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger

No, the one at Fort Knox. I think I’ve been to the one you’re talking about on a side trip when we went to an event in Palm Desert. Nice museum, but nothing like the scope of the Patton Museum at Knox back in the day.


76 posted on 04/17/2017 4:43:56 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
Oh, and further, my understanding is that all or at least most/the vast majority of the armor is gone from the Patton Museum, and what is left is just the Patton items.

Much of the Patton material was not donated to the museum, but was on loan from GSP's family, including the most immediately recognizable of the General's personal equipment. I don't think the Army, even the Infantry mafia, wants to take that sort of fight on; careers would end.

It was relocated to Benning, but was not on display.

The Benning School for Boys is somewhat reminiscent of that scene from Indiana Jones and the Ark of the Covenant warehouse scene of rows and rows of boxes and crates in storage, aisle by aisle.

Of course the same sort of downturn can happen to Benning. But we may see a little repairative change coming in the Army, and Knox is not shut down yet. Funny thing: Henry Knox was the Father of the American Artillery Corps; you'd think Ft Knox would be the home of the cannon-cocking Redlegs. And that the headquarters post for Armor would be Fort Patton.


77 posted on 04/17/2017 7:53:05 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Big Red Badger
Referring to Pattons museum in SoCal.?

No. While several major proponents of the Infantry Branch were well-situated during the Bush II and Obama Administrations, the George S. Patton Museum of Armor and Cavalry at Fort Knox, Kentucky was minimized, though not completely shut down. The museum's Living History volunteers were disbanded and the vehicles, some donated, they had lovingly restored at the Linton S. Boatwright Maintenance Facility were shipped off to the Infantry Center at Ft Benning, GA, where some have reportedly been stripped for spare parts that were then sold or traded to other facilities. Or scrapped.

During the war, military units, many led by officers who had been trained as tankers at Ft Knox or had been stationed there during the wartime buildup of the tank forces, sent captured or destroyed during the advances across Europe and the Pacific Islands [Marine tankers trained at Knox, too] both for testing and training, and so that tomorrow's tankers could better understand the limitations of the equipment of an earlier day. As the young rookie officers had learned their lessons at Knox, so they became the combat leaders who put Hitler's armies into barbed-wire cages- or under the ground. I really doubt that message will ever be told right at Benning.

Even the old museum building at Knox, a firetrap to be sure, was a part of that wartime expansion and buildup. And next door was one of my per4sonal favourites: a wooden building that was a mockup of a WWII Landing Ship, reinforced and stressed so that tankers in Kentucky far from any ocean could practice ship loading procedures for forthcoming invasions. In the late 1960s, '66 and '67 as I recall, every tank crewman in the Army donated a buck a month out of our paychecks so that a new [fireproof!] museum building could be built. I donated, and grumbled about it, but when I saw the result, I was amazed- and it was worth it. No more.


78 posted on 04/17/2017 8:58:34 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

That is So Cool!


79 posted on 04/17/2017 3:43:21 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: archy

One of Each?

Wow !


80 posted on 04/17/2017 3:46:21 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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