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RINOcare lesson for Trump: Work with conservatives, not with the swamp
Conservative Review ^ | 03/24/2017 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 03/24/2017 7:57:50 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

The Republican and Democrat parties are essentially a bad unibrow with one distinction: Whereas Democrats lie in pursuit of their goals, ideology, and objectives, Republicans lie in pursuit of … the other side’s goals, ideology, and objectives.

One of the most indelible moments in recent political history, etched in the minds of voters who detest Obamacare, is when Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) declared, “we have to pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it.” Now, with a GOP that has made it clear they want to preserve Obamacare under the dastardly lie of repealing it, they have come full George Orwell circle, and are repeating the same mantra. Facts and details don’t matter. Drafting errors don’t matter. Adverse selection, insolvency, and political suicide don’t matter. Cause and effect market responses don’t matter. Yet, before the bill was pulled, Rep. Chris Collins, (R-N.Y.) an ardent proponent of amnesty, said “once we get it done, then we can really explain what’s in it.”

Thankfully, this travesty was finally pulled from the floor. But the lies and principles behind this bill, culminating with Rep. Collins literally echoing the modus operandi of Nancy Pelosi, demonstrates that we don’t have a party that represents our views.

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KEYWORDS: failure; obamacare; rinocare
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To: ForYourChildren

I don’t get any of this...

Obamacare/Trump/Ryancare is NOT healthcare; it is putting a financial GUN to our heads in order to FORCE us to buy INSURANCE.

That’s the bottom line for me.

It’s utter corruption and banana republic tactics.

Government, GET THE HELL OUT OF IT!! PERIOD!!!


21 posted on 03/24/2017 9:13:59 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: joethedrummer

I don’t get any of this...

Obamacare/Trump/Ryancare is NOT healthcare; it is putting a financial GUN to our heads in order to FORCE us to buy INSURANCE.

That’s the bottom line for me.

It’s utter corruption and banana republic tactics.

Government, GET THE HELL OUT OF IT!! PERIOD!!!


Very good. We all seem to forget this point. So I am reposting your comment in its entirety!


22 posted on 03/24/2017 9:30:21 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

The lesson is take out Ryan just like Trump did and don’t listen to Levin’s 1D chess moves, Trump is playing 4D chess.


23 posted on 03/24/2017 10:28:06 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: ForYourChildren

What’s it going to look like as a practical matter if/when we get an “Obamacare is erased” bill?

There is such an infrastructure woven around this monstrosity. Will that come down and be rebuilt in a day?

What do we do with existing coverage policies?

Doctrinaire has to meet practical in order to get something that will actually work.


24 posted on 03/24/2017 11:08:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ForYourChildren

It’s a taaaaaaaaax.

Like it or not, America slouched into that. Now the only question left is what to do with the taaaaaaaaaax.


25 posted on 03/24/2017 11:11:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: All

Dear Daniel Horowitz,

The Conservatives live in the swamp too. There are no more good guys.


26 posted on 03/25/2017 12:46:31 AM PDT by bereanrabbi
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To: joethedrummer

Absolutely right.

As the great Ronald Reagan used to say: “Government’s not the solution to our problems, they ARE the problem.”.

There may also be some undue influence from the West Wing, however.


27 posted on 03/25/2017 12:52:34 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: tennmountainman

Why do we need a replacement? Can’t we repeal it and let things go back to the way they were?


28 posted on 03/25/2017 2:00:59 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: ForYourChildren
The dirty (not so) secret inside the beltway swamp, is that the government lusts for the power of control and $$$$$ that "healthcare" legislation brings. All the past rhetoric about repealing Obamacare has always been a smokescreen for the establishment crowd to put their own brand on it. They still want the power of control and acess to those insurance/pharma lobbyist dollars.

There is not a trace of Constitutional authority assigned to any branch of government to dictate to an American citizen in choosing and paying into their own healthcare any more than there is to choose what clothes we wear or what car we drive. None. Nada.

Yet, here we are....

29 posted on 03/25/2017 2:17:24 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: ForYourChildren

I think Trump is playing “rope-a-dope” with Ryan, and the GOPe.

He pushed them out front, Paul “Obama” Ryan polished up Obamacare, and gave us the “take it, or leave it” approach. We left it.

Now, anything the RINOs come up with is DOA. Their credibility is shot!

Meanwhile, Trump should EO ALL waivers, and let Obamacare crash and burn. It will “self-repeal”.

Ryan has permanently outed himself as a team player with this “my way or the highway” approach of another “you’ve got to pass it to see what’s in it” boondoggle.


30 posted on 03/25/2017 7:33:04 AM PDT by FrankR (FULL REPEAL, OR NO DEAL)
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To: FrankR

as long as Ryan is Speaker he will torpedo everything Trump tries to do..the HFC voted for this clown too so they shouldn’t be able to hide either. Trump can’t be this stupid and must know this so we will see what happens


31 posted on 03/25/2017 7:36:01 AM PDT by ground_fog ( My God this was from today!)
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