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To: Swordmaker

Read the WikiLeaks. It’s happening at the factory. It’s not a lie. What is a lie is when you quote things like it’s “unlikely”.

Hell for all we know Apple is complicit in this.


26 posted on 03/23/2017 10:17:29 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
Read the WikiLeaks. It’s happening at the factory. It’s not a lie. What is a lie is when you quote things like it’s “unlikely”.

Hell for all we know Apple is complicit in this.

The only thing that Wikileaks has released is data from 2008. It is NOT happening at the factory. . . which makes you a liar. You just want that to be true.

There is not one word about this happening at the factory. The Wikileaks says they are ADDING this spyware to "Factory Fresh" iPhones by intercepting them in shipment. The data is quite explicit about it. That would be unnecessary if they were adding their spyware at the factory.

However, Wikileaks is quite explicit about how the devices are compromised, and it is NOT, repeat NOT, at the factory, it is in the distribution chain, as they are being sent to the target by common carrier, through the mail, FedEx, UPS, what have you.

Quoting directly from the Assange's Wikileaks #Vault 7 dump summary statement on his website:

"Also included in this release is the manual for the CIA’s “NightSkies 1.2” a “beacon/loader/implant tool” for the Apple iPhone.

Noteworthy is that NightSkies had reached 1.2 by 2008, and is expressly designed to be physically installed onto factory fresh iPhones. i.e the CIA has been infecting the iPhone supply chain of its targets since at least 2008.

While CIA assets are sometimes used to physically infect systems in the custody of a target it is likely that many CIA physical access attacks have infected the targeted organization’s supply chain including by interdicting mail orders and other shipments (opening, infecting, and resending) leaving the United States or otherwise."

In addition, for-q-clinton, Apple does not send iPhones to overseas locations from the United States. They are sent directly from China. That is the case for even delivery to customers in the US who order from the online Apple Store. Customers who buy from a carrier or from a brick and mortar Apple Store walk out with a randomly selected iPhone or iPad from stock.

There is no way the CIA has sufficient staffing which can intercept an Apple device sent in China and then forward it to a foreign customer. They can only do this for US domestic customers but even then, how can they do this in shipments that number in the millions every month? Additionally, what does that say about WHO they are spying on???? I can see the CIA intercepting mail, FedEx or UPS shipments just prior to delivery to specific addresses, and then modifying the contents, but not the wholesale alteration of millions of devices you are claiming is what they are doing. That is simply not possible to do with limited resources, nor is it necessary.

I repeat, READ FOR COMPREHENSION!

There is no reason for you to claim such a thing. . . except your Apple Derangement Syndrome, which causes you to read things that are NOT THERE!.

30 posted on 03/23/2017 11:40:08 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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