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Advise to Case International. Allow farmers to wrench on their own equipment and put JD ag out of business overnight.
These new smartasses at John Deere are destroying all the loyalty the company has built over the last century. I know a lot of guys who are true John Deere loyalists. They grew up with Deere tractors, have never owned anything but a Deere tractor, hell, they just about bleed John Deere green if you cut them. They have little models of John Deere tractors all over their homes and John Deere books on their shelves. My best friend owns seven John Deere tractors, one of them from the 1930s.
Something has happened. The people calling the shots now at John Deere don’t seem to give a damn about any of that. They want as much money as they can get right now and everything else can go hang. They’re actually willing to cause financial harm to their customers if it will put another hundred dollars in their pocket. “Oh, you can pay us $130,000 for a tractor but, guess what? As far as we’re concerned you will never actually own it! What’s that? Your starter has gone out? Pay us to come fix it. Or sit there and watch your crop rot. Either way is fine with us.”
John Deere has been infected and if it doesn’t get cured it will end up as just another company that went the way of the dodo.
It may be more simply said that actually done, but don’t but John Deere equipment.
Anybody that installs a Ukrainian hack deserves whatever hell it unleashes. This is stupid.
My husband has been looking for a tractor and the older used ones cost more than the newer used one because of all that crap.
This appiles to our cars and should be made illegal immediately. This is ant-trust if I have ever seen it but because our government representative are paid by these people— they do nothing and we get screwed!! I had to change a head light and it was $490. That is robbery and needs to be quickly addressed as FRAUD!!
http://opensourceecology.org/portfolio/tractor/
http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/LifeTrac
More “hack” than tractor but .....
Sounds like I need to move to the midwest and start a tractor jailbreaking biz.
I had no idea!
The only thing electronic on my tractor, purchased new four years ago, is the voltage regulator for the generator.
If there is an EMP or something, with these computerized tractors (and vehicles in general) people are gonna starve... But my tractor will still be running... all I have to do is install a switch and monitor the charge level on the battery and flip the switch when it is charged.
“When crunch time comes and we break down, chances are we don’t have time to wait for a dealership employee to show up and fix it
= = =
Been there, done that - - -
Bailing wire, ‘Farmer Bolts’, Crescent wrench and it’s back working again!
I have a suspicion that this is to bypass a “kill” switch when the farmers don’t pay their lease on the machinery much the same as a GPS kill switch on cars when you don’t pay your loan.
HOWEVER! If it is indeed a case of repairing or optimizing owned equipment I’m all for it. Not that I would ever do this... But I heard you can disable the ridiculous and stupid UREA system on modern diesel pickups. Again I would NEVER recommend disabling the urea system on a diesel engine if you are a diesel truck or auto owner.
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Sounds like CA smog testing insanity.
This will be making big news soon. Millions in CA are now required to drive in circles, endless miles, were talking hundreds of miles, in attempts to simply recycle their vehicle computers so they can “qualify” to take the smog test. They’re not even allowed to take the smog test until the computer shows all diagnostics on the computer show, “complete” and ready for the smog test.
It’s a complete chaotic and environmental disaster. They say upwards of 5 million in CA on now:
“Stuck in CA smog check hell”
http://workingreporter.com/wordpress/stuck-in-smog-check-hell/#comment-164909
No need to hack my 1941 Ford 9n.
75 years young and still plugging away.
Bastard corporatists. It should be a law that if a seller requires a purchaser to get maintenance from the seller, the service is free. When ownership transfers, it’s transferred. The friggin software industry screwed this up.
First of all, under federal law, a vendor can not refuse to service or install non OEM parts if they meet manufacturers specs. The issues with protecting firmware on heavy equipment are primarily good. I was briefed by someone involved in a project to prevent firmware from operating on unauthorized heavy equipment replacement parts because of a Chinese subcontractor to a respected American manufacturer somehow loosing their defective parts that were then being resold in the grey aftermarket. The only stopgap in preventing the defective parts from being used was the OEM authorized firmware. Also the manufacturer had headaches with equipment at “the edge of the world” failing and after flying in a service tech at great expense, they could not even diagnose the equipment because a firmware hack had been installed by a rogue service tech. This is not fair to everyone involved.
I understand why they are dong this. Up until just recently, one could use EFI Live and manipulate the engine control module on many cars and trucks. I did it on my 2009 GMC Duramax. On later models, Bosch encrypted the code and last I knew, it was still locked.