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What would the U.S. look like without the EPA?
CBS "News" ^ | March 15, 2017 | By MICHAEL DHAR

Posted on 03/15/2017 2:08:56 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Acid rain devouring New England forests. Homes built on toxic sites. Unswimmable rivers and cities cloaked in smog. The United States looked very different before the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) arrived, but a recent Congressional bill calls for the agency’s abolition. So Americans may wonder: What would life be like without the EPA? -SNIP-

Without the EPA’s abilities to quickly assess environmental hazards, future environmental disasters would be worsened, The Washington Post reported. A proposed 42-percent budget cut to the EPA’s research division already makes that a danger, the Post reported. -SNIP-

In the end, the EPA is unlikely to face flat-out abolition, Salzman said, because all federal environmental legislation assumes the existence of the EPA for enforcement. So eliminating the agency would require rolling back those laws, too, which is unlikely, he said.

“It’s hard for me to imagine that there would be public support to rewrite all of our major environmental laws,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bias; epa; fakenews; first100days; globalwarming; journalism; trumpenvironment; trumpepa
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What would America look like if the EPA’s reach never expanded beyond what they were in the pre-Clinton years? That is my question. Because things were pretty dirty-nasty back in the late 1960s and early 70s in Cleveland. Driving past Republic Steel was a stinky ride, although my father always said that was the smell of people with jobs. I appreciated it in that sense.


21 posted on 03/15/2017 2:21:16 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: colorado tanker

Much of the cost was on rural areas where the farms, mines, and logging takes place.

Much of the benefit is in urban areas where the pollutants are concentrated.

So it is kind of a tax on the rural areas to benefit the urban areas.


22 posted on 03/15/2017 2:23:08 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And, I just read that global warming is making animals smaller!

By the time Trump finishes his second term, an elephant will be the size of a gerbil.

What a monster! Punch a Nazi!


23 posted on 03/15/2017 2:23:22 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Ahh ... you do realize that CO2 in the atmosphere doesn’t keep you from seeing the mountains? And that CO2 in the air is not poisoning you?

What EPA did years ago was mostly good. What it is attempting to now is mostly NOT GOOD but is part of the campaign to weaken and diminish America and impoverish its citizens.


24 posted on 03/15/2017 2:23:24 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom; sanjuanbob

“As a kid growing up in Los Angeles, I did not even realize some of those mountains were there until years later when the air was finally cleaned up.”

That was completely true.

Just a few miles from the San Gabriel mountains and most days you couldn’t see them.

Now only a few days a year is it too smoggy to see them.


25 posted on 03/15/2017 2:24:22 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Probably a lot like the scenery from Dances With Wolves.


26 posted on 03/15/2017 2:25:38 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Good judgement comes from experience. And experience? Well, that comes from poor judgement.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

EPA VASTLY OVERREACHED YEARS AGO. They no longer have moral authority, because their mission has shifted from actually being a lead agency in the effort to convince the general public better ways to manage recycling efforts, by education and example, and have become a police agency, enforcing fines and carrying out judicial activities aimed at simply STOPPING economic activity.

Regardless of any cost-benefit ratios.


27 posted on 03/15/2017 2:26:38 PM PDT by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What would the U.S. look like without the EPA?

Well, for one, home owners would be allowed to collect rain water from their roof into a water barrel.

They also would be allowed to swim in their own private ponds without being harassed by the bloated mafia EPA who would argue that it belongs to the federal government.

Farmers would be allowed to let their cattle drink from the private streams without paying a huge fee to the EPA for doing so, etc. etc.


28 posted on 03/15/2017 2:27:22 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Little Ray

EPA also banned Albuterol which worked for asthma, and they came out with a new one which doe snot work, and why. Because that little spray which works for asthma sufferers was polluting the environment. IDIOTS.


29 posted on 03/15/2017 2:27:33 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: House Atreides; libh8er

“What it is attempting to now is mostly NOT GOOD but is part of the campaign to weaken and diminish America and impoverish its citizens.”

That’s the problem. It’s a Frankenstein’s monster.

The so-called environmental movement is not longer meant to clean up or keep clean but to control and manipulate for another agenda.


30 posted on 03/15/2017 2:27:40 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

All b.s. States were cleaning up long before Nixons gift to socialism


31 posted on 03/15/2017 2:31:37 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: polymuser

The “March of dimes” is a good example. The original cause was to find a cure for Polio.

Once that disease had been virtually eliminated they needed another cause to fight, and chose “birth defects”.
This nebulous and all inclusive term assures them of a long lasting existence.


32 posted on 03/15/2017 2:31:44 PM PDT by Ed Condon (subliminal messages here in invisible ink)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We need checks and balances.

Keep the EPA.

Balance it.

33 posted on 03/15/2017 2:33:35 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

W/o the epa I could have a gas can that is user friendly.


34 posted on 03/15/2017 2:34:07 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

KILL IT!. Let State EPA’s take over their own areas.


35 posted on 03/15/2017 2:34:24 PM PDT by wetgundog ("Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice" -AuH2O)
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To: Little Ray

Great post!


36 posted on 03/15/2017 2:34:39 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

One of the nastiest things about the EPA is its utter disregard for Constitutional restraints.

They levy enormous fines against people who were never involved in the actions that they claim need to be fixed.

If cleanup is required, then it is a public good, and the public should pay to purchase the property.

But the EPA has claimed the ability, and the Courts have not reigned them in, to levy fines on owner of property that never polluted a thing, or if they did pollute, it was before it was illegal to do so! People just abandoned tens of thousands of properties, because the properties were worth less than the EPA fines!


37 posted on 03/15/2017 2:39:24 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sea lions wouldn’t be taking craps all over decks and piers on the west coast and stinking everything up.


38 posted on 03/15/2017 2:41:08 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes SeeBS, the EPA did do a good job. They also obsoleted themselves about 20 years ago. Their original mission
accomplished they are now on a new mission to bring the US people to their means thru regulation.


39 posted on 03/15/2017 2:42:15 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Me too. I don’t believe they have done much to clean up the air or water that wouldn’t have been done without them anyways.


40 posted on 03/15/2017 2:43:10 PM PDT by jospehm20
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