guaranteeing democrat victories in 2018 and 2020 and beyond.
The democrats know this and will fight hard to make sure any new system jeopardizes republican majorities
in the House and Senate.
Posted on 03/12/2017 12:33:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” while discussing the Republican plan to repeal and replace Obamacare, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) said he was “afraid if they vote for the bill, they’ll put the House majority at risk next year.”
Cotton said, “As it’s written today, this bill cannot pass the Senate. I believe it would have adverse consequences for millions of Americans and wouldn’t deliver on our promises to reduce the cost of health insurance to Americans. I would say to my friends in the house of representatives, with whom I serve, do not walk the plank and vote for a bill that cannot pass the Senate and then have to face the consequences of that vote. George, you were in the White House in 1993. You remember when House Democrats voted for a BTU energy tax. Not only did that not become law, it didn’t get a vote in the Senate. And those Democrats lost their next election because they voted on that tax. They call it getting BTU’d. I don’t think this bill can pass the Senate. And therefore, I think the house should take a pause and try to get as close as we can to a good result before they send to it the Senate.”
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I knew I would get questioned re: Cotton.
I like him, he has higher aspirations. I wish him well.
I would have preferred a more muted soundbite than the one initially quoted. I should have stated that, sorry.
All I see IS a lack of leadership from the top of the party. And If it all collapses, who gets the blame? An outsider. Trump. NOT Ryan. NOT Congre$$. Not SCROtUS. OR Big Pharma.
You misunderstand Cotton. He’s not trying to get people to vote for Ryan’s piece of crap, he’s trying to GET CONGRESS TO VOTE AGAINST IT. And that’s a good thing!
Force Congress and staff into whatever plan is passed?
Sounds good. Now go convince the Senate Parliamentarian that qualifies as Reconciliation.
That’s not going to fly. So it can’t go in.
I will ignore your ignorant attack. The democrats would not hesitate and have never hesitated to put republicans in prison when THEY WERE ABLE.
Ryan can pass a straight up repeal in the House. But in case you didn’t know. Ryan does not control the Senate.
Are you saying Ryan controls the Senate?
Nothing beyond it is? Or else there will be bloodshed? Ha!
Thanks NormsRevenge. Not trying to give you a hard time.
Congress should own this, but if others back the bill, then they deserve to be taken to task for it as well.
My cautions on that last point is that we avoid shooting ourselves in the foot to get even.’
I don’t see that as pertaining to your post thought.
Thanks NormsRevenge. Not trying to give you a hard time.
Congress should own this, but if others back the bill, then they deserve to be taken to task for it as well.
My cautions on that last point is that we avoid shooting ourselves in the foot to get even.’
I don’t see that as pertaining to your post though.
Ryan and too many others did not get the message four months so apparently.
I’m saying Ryan understood the constraint of Reconciliation more than Pelosi did when she submitted a single payer plan out of the left wing House in 2009.
Reid informed her of the constraints of 60 votes, and how some Dem Senators would not accept a single payer plan. So there would be less than 60 votes to move the legislation.
Obamacare, which is not single payer, evolved from those constraints.
Ryan arrives at the scene already educated about the Senate’s limits. So he carefully crafted a bill that can get past the Senate Parliamentarian.
But the fallacy in your argument lies in confusing what can and can't change. The Senate rules and votes are somewhat fixed, but there's a lot of leeway what gets written up in a bill. And then again, things can even change in the Senate. The art is difficult, because you don't know what's possible.
The democrats know this and will fight hard to make sure any new system jeopardizes republican majorities
in the House and Senate.
No Chamber of Commerce bills for cheap labor importers. Make another replacement bill if it can’t pass at least you showed that you opposed the status quo and that way you can say I told you so when Obama care fails then come up with a replacement. With reapportionment after the next 2 cycles don’t do anything that would jeopardize the house or Senate majority and especially not the down ballot races needed for then.
Have you seen this?
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Senator @tedcruz Found an Overlooked 1974 Rule That Could Be a Real Game-changer for Repealing Obamacarehttps://t.co/4tCGWcIrpQ—; Independent Journal (@TheIJR) March 11, 2017
Senator @tedcruz Found an Overlooked 1974 Rule That Could Be a Real Game-changer for Repealing Obamacare.
According to Cruz, however, a provision in the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 would allow Republicans to both drastically increase the scope of their new health care reform bill and still let it fall under reconciliation by essentially bypassing the parliamentarian and leaving that decision up to Vice President Pence.
As Cruz put it:
“Under the Budget Act of 1974, which is what governs reconciliation, it is the presiding officer, the vice president of the United States, who rules on what’s permissible on reconciliation and what is not.
That’s a conversation I’ve been having with a number of my colleagues.”-—Per Indedent Journal Review.
He does seem to be a puppet on the strings of whomever paid for him. What's inexcusable is that the 'pubs in the HOR chose him even once as Speaker. Electing him twice indicates just one thing.....most of them (everyone who voted for him anyway) is as bought and paid for as is Ryan!
No mandate. Period. People who don't get insured or can't afford it can go to clinics where the least expensive health solutions are available.
I would wager that most people would get a policy for catastrophes only, with large deductibles....just like health insurance was before HMOs came along.
Advice to the Pubbies: Don’t worry about what the libs or the press or the insurance companies think. Worry about what the people who elected you and Trump think. They are the ones you will need year after next.
Excellent point.
Ya, that’s already made the rounds.
It says “you can fit anything in Reconciliation if you ignore the Senate Parliamentarian.”
Everyone knows that’s just a mechanism intended to destroy the filibuster. An attempt to destroy the filibuster could not get even 50 votes. Conservatives will not support that.
It’s a non starter. Pence laughed it off, as he should.
zerOcare as passed had adverse consequences for millions of Americans. Millions of Americans thought they were going to get millions of Americans to pay for their healthcare, they can get a job. Repeal the mother f#cker. Since jOkeass made mandatory a benefit, let the free market offer remedies.
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