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Ryan foresees 'bloodbath' if GOP fails to pass healthcare legislation
The Hill ^ | March 12, 2017 | Mallory Shelbourne

Posted on 03/12/2017 9:00:13 AM PDT by yoe

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To: Norseman

Not without substantial change.

That chart should be erased, not just some lines.


61 posted on 03/12/2017 11:15:51 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: yoe; All
Would ANYONE trust this smug POS?

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62 posted on 03/12/2017 11:26:05 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Owen

I was under the impression that Trump’s call to send back illegals, build the wall and bring jobs back for American citizens was what won him those Rust Belt states. As long as he keeps his word and does that, he won’t lose them, he’ll gain.

If he keeps his promise to repeal Obamacare, he’ll keep the conservatives. Remember us conservatives? We’re the ones who brought him through all the election nonsense.

The Globalist Elite told us we had to go liberal because only a big tent would win. They shoved first McCain and then Romney down our throats because hey, that’s how you win. Those two designated losers did exactly as designed. Now that we’ve totally bypassed their losing lib ways, Paul Ryno and his globalist elite friends are back pushing their you have to go liberal or lose meme.

It wasn’t true before and it’s not true now. If Trump keeps his promise and repeals Obamacare, he’ll be respected for keeping his promise and trusted even by those who used to vote democrat. But if he caves to the globalist elite libs, we’ll all lose.

As long as Donald Trump keeps his word, he’ll be head and shoulders above all the other politicians in Washington, DC and across the nation. He won’t lose anything though the left may very well get sick of losing.


63 posted on 03/12/2017 11:42:22 AM PDT by Waryone (2 Chronicles 7:14; praise God for His great mercy!)
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To: yoe

Repeal it.
I agree. Own the repeal. Man up, Ryan.
(hint: You want to own the repeal, it’s a good thing.)


64 posted on 03/12/2017 11:49:29 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: 9YearLurker
a new national party

Sooner than later, such a party will be corrupted by its focus on its own perpetuation and future, just like all those national parties that have gone before.

Only God and those who stand with Him at the grass-roots level can restore our Free Constitutional Republic. I have absolutely no faith in man to do it. But God has his men and Trump is one of them.

Trump was a miracle from God, not from a political party, and to be restored, America will need more miracles from God not unlike the miracles that birthed and began our beloved nation.

65 posted on 03/12/2017 11:57:42 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Right, but if he fails it will be in no small part due to the corrupt GOPe.

Better to start new than to be thwarted by the uniparty iteration of the GOP.


66 posted on 03/12/2017 12:00:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: yoe

Jim Robinson’s letter:

Agree. Lyin Ryan does NOT want the swamp drained. It’s his, and every other crooked politician’s bread and butter. They would rather lose the midterms, than drain the swamp. They never wanted Trump in the first place, so they’re also more than happy to see him fail. They couldn’t care less about the American people. They are corrupt, and intend to do everything in their power, to stay that way. LORD, have mercy on us, and confound the enemy, in the Name of Jesus. Protect President Trump and his family; forgive our sins, LORD, and send revival to our sinful country. Amen


67 posted on 03/12/2017 12:01:50 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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To: Sasparilla
There will be a bloodbath if they pass Obamacare Lite.

Bingo!

68 posted on 03/12/2017 12:04:04 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: yoe

Pass the sh*t sandwich into law, or else!


69 posted on 03/12/2017 12:07:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: ZULU

I believe you are correct regarding Ryan wanting to ruin Trumps presidency and take away his popularity. However, I do not believe Ryan wants to go back into the minority in Congress. He is stupid enough to think he is smart enough to take Trump’s power away while still maintaining control of Congress. That shows just how stupid he is because if he is successful, the GOP will cease to exist, as Trump’s base will never support the GOP again — or at least this base member won’t. And I’ll start by trying to defeat our two GUPPIE senators Ensi and Barrasso of WY.


70 posted on 03/12/2017 12:21:25 PM PDT by falcon99
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To: yoe

Well, keep Dickin around and yeah, blood bath.

Repeal that POS and replace it with common sense ....


71 posted on 03/12/2017 12:25:35 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: falcon99

There is not much danger of the loss of congress the margins are to large for congress the SENATE however is another story don’t kid yourself these BASTARDS don’t give a damn who is in charge as long as THEY maintain their own seats!!! NOTHING changes for them ONLY us!!!


72 posted on 03/12/2017 12:27:20 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: 9YearLurker

Well, I hate the GOP and am not advocating relying on them for 2020 (more importantly for 2024 - Trump should take 2020 with or without GOP help just like he took 2016. The biggie is 2024).

I’m saying a “new national party” will soon be as corrupt as the old one. So no reliance on the GOP or a new national party.

I guess what I’m saying is we are literally in God’s hands now. Obama quickly brought us there. I’m saying grassroots effort, not unlike 2016, with a firm faith in the God who birthed America. The rebels were in the minority in the colonies then and we may be a minority now. But with God, all things are possible.

I guess what I’m saying is with faith in God, we all do what we can at a grassroots, local, state, and national level. Maybe we are and have been “Republicans In Name Only” just like we were in 2016. Let’s face it, most of us Trump supporters were actually anti-GOPe “RINO”s in 2016. I know I was. I basically hate the GOP but “Republican” was a way for us to collect our votes and win. But we have no allegiance to the party whatsoever, because the party has no allegiance to us whatsoever. That would quickly become true with a new national party as well.

The anti-establishment movement that swept Trump into power is a grassroots movement. Keep it decentralized. And, as they say, “keep your powder dry”, except what we fire is words and actions that make a difference. Not neat and tidy like a national party - just hearts across the nation that burn with love for America. We don’t need neat and tidy. We need the status quo blown up and God’s help to restore our Free Constitutional Republic.

How? God knows, but that’s OK because as I said, we’re in His hands now. He knows - we’ll follow.


73 posted on 03/12/2017 12:37:52 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Party’s are still part of the system. Even though yes, they devolve into corruption. It’s not going to happen, but I think it should, and I think Trump bringing the GOPe into his senior team will be the undoing of his administration.


74 posted on 03/12/2017 12:39:43 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: yoe
Translation: "I will shoot your daughter if you don't do what I say"

Get rid of him.

75 posted on 03/12/2017 1:07:34 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: yoe

Two years ago they passed a repeal of nobamacare. How about some real work to put insurance available to any one and everyone who can afford it. We’ve had Medicaid for those who cannot afford it, still do, even with nobamacare. HA So why is P. Ryan now touting nobama care lite? Mamma
wants nobamacare to stay? I’ve read she rules.


76 posted on 03/12/2017 1:09:44 PM PDT by tillacum (I'm still a Deplorable.)
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To: falcon99

During the campaign Ryan let it be known he didn’t want our president to win the election. He’s not changed.


77 posted on 03/12/2017 1:14:40 PM PDT by tillacum (I'm still a Deplorable.)
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To: yoe
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Sunday said he agrees with President Trump that 2018 will be a "bloodbath" for Republicans if Congress does not pass legislation repealing and replacing ObamaCare.

Okay Paul, where's the "legislation repealing and replacing ObamaCare.?" Your current "solution" certainly doesn't do that.

I remember when you Congresscritters showed some cojones and passed legislation that was much closer to "repealing and replacing Obamacare." What happened to that? Why not propose it again?

78 posted on 03/12/2017 1:39:07 PM PDT by upchuck (If a Moose has Diarrhea, is that Mooslime? h/t Scrambler Bob)
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To: 9YearLurker

Well, it’s obvious the GOP has to be used just as it was used to win the 2016 election. But the GOP, especially the GOPe, isn’t to be trusted. But it looks like Trump, like Reagan, is going to have to deal with these folks in order to get his legislative agenda passed through Congress.

Trump, like Reagan, is a master negotiator. Reagan was a master political negotiator, learning he could get 70% of what he wanted if he could give the opposition 30% so they could feel good about it. But the 30% was never an essential to Reagan, so he was giving away a non-essential. But Reagan also felt that when his 70% produced the anticipated good results he would also get his 30%. What a guy.

Trump is a business negotiator which may be different than political negations, I don’t know. Anyway he and we are in for a fight. May God help us.


79 posted on 03/12/2017 2:00:49 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Yeah, but when the other side is also staffing your negotiating team, you’re in trouble.

That’s what’s gone on here.


80 posted on 03/12/2017 2:04:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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