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House panel wants any evidence Trump's phones were tapped
AP ^ | March 11, 2017 | DEB RIECHMANN

Posted on 03/11/2017 10:47:34 PM PST by Pinkbell

Edited on 03/12/2017 3:00:12 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; russia; trump; wiretap; wiretapping; wiretaps
I don't know if he has has any that his phone was tapped directly, but we know the NSA or CIA can listen to calls. There wouldn't be proof if they did. There was the FISA warrant for the wiretap of the server.

I disagreed with how he went about those Tweets. I think he would have been better off to look into the Breitbart article with his staff, and then if they decided as such, tweet it out and request an investigation.

1 posted on 03/11/2017 10:47:34 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell
He also said that he would ask FBI Director James Comey directly when he appears later this month before the full committee, which is investigating Russian activities during the election."We should be able to determine in fairly short order whether this allegation is true or false," Schiff told reporters Tuesday evening at the Capitol.

Just asking Comey is not going to answer the question. The FBI is only responsible for wiretaps pertaining to a possible criminal case. There are other agencies- such as the NSA and CIA- that are not concerned with prosecution of a case, thus wouldn't need a warrant. Also, be sure to ask these agency heads not only did they do the "wiretapping", but did they get information from any foreign intelligence service ( such as GHCQ in Britain and the intel agency in Australia). That is a trick they use to bypass US law. They have agreements with both of those countries to do the spying for them and share the info - thus bypassing the restrictions placed on the CIA and NSA under US law.

2 posted on 03/11/2017 11:05:24 PM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: Pinkbell

They sure gave him an exceptionally short period of time to find any evidence. I doubt he will find anything that they consider “proof.”


3 posted on 03/11/2017 11:38:20 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Evidence? The NSA could tap a garden hose. Idiotic posturing...


4 posted on 03/12/2017 12:07:37 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Pinkbell

The front page of the NYT 1/20/2017 before they altered it.

I’m sure someone in Trump’s orbit has a screen shot, at the very least.


5 posted on 03/12/2017 12:18:05 AM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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The Obama wire-tapping gang still has to face the music.

(JIM0216 hat tip)......the issue isn't whether Trump was wiretapped (Obama admitted such and apparently, there was a FISA warrant issued for the wiretapping). The issue is whether there was probable cause to issue a warrant. Probable cause is defined as the reasonable likelihood that a crime is or has been committed by the person or at the place designated........

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(REAGANGENERATION2 HAT TIP)---Trump should be able to review all 2 or 3 FISA requests (if he hasn’t already), and then let Congress determine if the requesters lied about the probable cause justifying them......then (1) you’d prove perjury, and, even worse, (2) the intent was to abuse executive power.

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A good beginning....and then it gets downright lethal for the Obama gang:

Via Breitbart, JOHN HAYWARD observed that the FISA court may have approved a warrant submitted without Trump’s name but “which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump.”

Ergo the most serious legal jeopardy that might be faced would be (a) perjury for lying to the FISA court, and, (b) the dissemination of collected intelligence that should have been kept tightly classified.

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It is also entirely possible that Obama and his legal team may have perjured themselves before the FISA court by willfully withholding material information in order to manipulate the FISA court’s willingness to permit the government surveillance.

FALSIFYING GOVT DOCUMENTS would fall under the Crimes Act of 1958. Moreover, falsifying official documents is the criminal MO to hide larger crimes.

EXCERPT A person falsifying documents can be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years.

And if official government documents or govt authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. Legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting fact-based information
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.

6 posted on 03/12/2017 3:33:20 AM PDT by Liz (DNC Chair Perez's new Democrat slogan: Join us, or we'll sue Trump. W w)
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To: Pinkbell

Send the memo to the NY Times.


7 posted on 03/12/2017 4:16:54 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Pinkbell

They’re being cute with words “wiretap” and “phone.” They need to ask if he was under “surveillance.” They all know that’s what Trump was referring to.


8 posted on 03/12/2017 4:32:15 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump Pence 16 - Blow Up DC)
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To: nhwingut

The problem is Trump specifically used the word “phone” and “phones” in his Tweets. I just checked. Therefore, they will request about the phones.


9 posted on 03/12/2017 5:00:25 AM PDT by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: Pinkbell

Sure, because the tweet only turned the dialogue completely around to put Obama on the defensive. He should have done it more like Romney and GW.


10 posted on 03/12/2017 5:24:10 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Pinkbell

11 posted on 03/12/2017 5:30:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Pinkbell
The House intelligence committee asked the executive branch to provide by Monday any evidence to support President Donald Trump's claim that his phones were tapped at Trump Tower during the election, a senior congressional aide said Saturday.

Let's get this straight.

The President of the United States, requests that a standing Congressional Committee, examine whether or not his phones/computers were under surveillance, and their supposed response is, "You prove it!"

Looks and smells like Bullshit.

12 posted on 03/12/2017 5:56:45 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: Liz

thank you for this useful summary


13 posted on 03/12/2017 6:05:52 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

Highlighted and defined....it’s quite a long list of possible crimes.


14 posted on 03/12/2017 6:09:09 AM PDT by Liz (DNC Chair Perez's new Democrat slogan: Join us, or we'll sue Trump. W w)
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To: bray

That tweet took Jeff Sessions right off the front page of the Washington Post and the NY Times. The left was going after Session with everything they had. Thanks to Trumps’ Tweet Sessions is still the AG.


15 posted on 03/12/2017 6:38:37 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Pinkbell

Nonsense. Trump just hads the request to Sessions and McMaster & other heads who must turn it over. The tweets were 100% genius & killed the Rusdia crap in one weekend.


16 posted on 03/12/2017 6:57:53 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Pinkbell

Maybe they need to subpoena the folks at the NYSlimes and WaaaaaPo.....


17 posted on 03/12/2017 7:52:46 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

The administration now is in charge of the CIA and NSA. It won’t be hard to find the paper trail.


18 posted on 03/12/2017 8:19:12 AM PDT by blackberry1
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The administration now is in charge of the CIA and NSA. It won’t be hard to find the paper trail.

Could be more difficult than you imagine - huge entities with lots of folks on the wrong side - many experts at hiding trails.

19 posted on 03/13/2017 3:25:59 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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