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Rand Paul introduces ObamaCare repeal alternative
The Hill ^ | March 9, 2017 | Jordain Carney

Posted on 03/09/2017 8:41:16 AM PST by HarleyLady27

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To: freedom1st
I support Rand Paul’s strategy. Repeal all of Obamacare first.

Except Ron's bill repeals little more that Ryan's bill. There is no plan to completely repeal all of ObamaCare. BOHICA.

61 posted on 03/09/2017 9:42:46 AM PST by itsahoot (They have to keep the illegals covered because they vote.)
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To: HarleyLady27
Paul’s plan includes a tax credit of up to $5,000 per person

Yank that the hell out of there. What's wrong with you Mr. Big Libertarian?

A deduction...now that's a completely different story.

62 posted on 03/09/2017 9:43:38 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: dynoman
I agree with Trump that people should not be denied coverage based on preexisting conditions.

Then you (and Trump) are supporting a requirement for insurance companies that makes insurance prohibitively expensive for people who do not have any pre-existing conditions.

That's why there's no way to "fix" ObamaCare without eliminating the two things that are driving up insurance premiums for most Americans: (1) the elimination of lifetime coverage limits, and (2) the requirement for coverage of pre-existing conditions.

63 posted on 03/09/2017 9:44:09 AM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s heartless.


64 posted on 03/09/2017 9:45:27 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: eyeamok
I AM TAKING BETS that the Rino Party Will NEVER REPEAL OBAMACARE!

That was my bet made long before it ever became law through a supreme court mandated constitutional amendment.

65 posted on 03/09/2017 9:46:17 AM PST by itsahoot (They have to keep the illegals covered because they vote.)
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To: Alberta's Child

This makes more sense;

“If the FedGov did just one thing to actively clean this whole thing up it would be this: make it illegal to allow health insurance to be part of your compensation package. i.e. ALL health insurance is purchased by the insured - like car insurance.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3533117/posts?page=5#5

But then it’s one of those things easily said but hard to execute.


66 posted on 03/09/2017 9:48:24 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Is that you, Barack Obama?

Legislating "compassion" is the first step on the road to perdition.

Forcing an insurance company to cover a pre-existing condition is like forcing them to insure a house after it has burned to the ground. What planet do you live on where that makes any sense at all?

I don't want to see anyone go broke over a medical situation, but acting like a massive Federal entitlement program and an enormous regulatory requirement for insurance companies is the only alternative is idiotic.

No offense, of course. :-)

67 posted on 03/09/2017 9:49:48 AM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: dynoman

I agreed with that poster — sort of. There’s nothing wrong with an employer paying for your medical insurance. It should just be treated no differently than it he had purchased, say, a life or disability insurance policy for you.


68 posted on 03/09/2017 9:51:51 AM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: dynoman

I would like to see Obamacare repealed in its entirety.
Every word, root and branch.

Pass a replacement separately.

Or not.


69 posted on 03/09/2017 9:53:55 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
I don't trust any of them, only President Trump...

It could be that he wants to bring out RINO RYAN’s bill for the people to see, and then let Rand Paul bring out his bill and get some ‘working together’ going on with the input of the American People...

When it reaches his desk, then President Trump will be able to send it back with his wants (which is for the American People) and back and forth until we finally get something that President Trump thinks will be for the betterment of the American People...

This is why we elected him, and it seems to me this is how he is going to run his Administration, as long as he keeps his daughter out of the government's business, we elected him, not her...

70 posted on 03/09/2017 9:54:29 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: bigbob
Negotiation. This is how Congress is supposed to work.


How Negotiation really works.

71 posted on 03/09/2017 9:57:18 AM PST by itsahoot (They have to keep the illegals covered because they vote.)
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To: HarleyLady27

K.I.S.S.

Just repeal it ......pass the repeal and say it takes effect Dec1 2017.

Get TRUMPCARE INPLACE BEFORE THEN.

K.I.S.S.


72 posted on 03/09/2017 9:58:02 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Nope. Internal Revenue code 5000(A) still stands.


73 posted on 03/09/2017 9:59:51 AM PST by cornelis
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To: DoodleDawg

“But retain the requirement to cover pre-existing conditions as well as the subsidies.”

Right. I believe the subsidies are capped. They will lower insurance and drug costs in phases 2 and 3. Phase 1 has a narrow scope because of reconciliation rules.

If they cut off all the subsidies next month many states will go bankrupt. This will have to be addressed later.


74 posted on 03/09/2017 10:02:26 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: HarleyLady27

Repeal today, this moment and let things gel for a few months.


75 posted on 03/09/2017 10:04:21 AM PST by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: nclaurel
Ryan’s bill will insure the Dems have a chance of ousting GOP in 2018 and will tarnish Trump.

Sounds like a plan. The UniParty hates Trump, they loved Obama.

76 posted on 03/09/2017 10:07:02 AM PST by itsahoot (They have to keep the illegals covered because they vote.)
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To: DoodleDawg
SO what you’re saying is that the Republicans have never been interested in a repeal only plan and when they passed such bills in the past they were lying to us?

Egads Dawg, I think you are on to something there.

77 posted on 03/09/2017 10:07:27 AM PST by itsahoot (They have to keep the illegals covered because they vote.)
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To: chris37
So to sum it up, I’m not going to go all apeshit, and I’m willing to give this a chance to play out.

As if you had a choice.

78 posted on 03/09/2017 10:08:39 AM PST by itsahoot (They have to keep the illegals covered because they vote.)
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To: Helicondelta
Both Ryan and Paul repeal the Obamacare mandate and taxes.

It shifts the cost burden for the uninsured to the government. Thats all. And I don't even think in it's current form that it gets rid of the IRS reg.

79 posted on 03/09/2017 10:09:45 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: freedom1st

What does “enact healthcare insurance” mean?


80 posted on 03/09/2017 10:13:29 AM PST by Az Joe
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