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1 posted on 03/09/2017 5:37:44 AM PST by pgkdan
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Repeal obamacare lock stock and barrel. Then go after specific fixes to the system, first of which should be allowing interstate sales of health insurance plans. Then take a look at portability issues regarding pre-existing conditions.

But repeal the damned thing first!

2 posted on 03/09/2017 5:39:52 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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We all have short memories. We all knew that if Obama were reelected that his monstrosity would be so rooted in this country that we could never get rid of it. We need to remember this. It is the Herpes of all government programs and I don’t think there is all that much we can do about it.


3 posted on 03/09/2017 5:45:46 AM PST by JusPasenThru (SJW is the weaponization of compassion.)
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I know what is best. But do you have the votes to do what you ask. I don’t think you are close. In fact, I don’t think you have the votes even in the House.

The house voted for several bills that were never going to go anywhere. But they will not go anywhere now. Because those bills will drop people from health care and most republicans will not vote for something that drops people from coverage.


5 posted on 03/09/2017 5:50:34 AM PST by poinq
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If it is repealed outright, won’t millions of people be left with no insurance until something new is implemented?


7 posted on 03/09/2017 5:51:45 AM PST by jch10 (President Trump, President Trump, President Trump! I just love saying that!)
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Free ‘Basic’ healthcare should be provided to all US citizens regardless of income. Beyond that... not


10 posted on 03/09/2017 5:55:52 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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But forcing an insurance company to cover people with pre-existing conditions completely destroys the concept of insurance. Insurance is about pooling groups of people whose premiums cover unknown risks, not known ones.

I disagree: insurance spreads the risk among those in the pool, known and unknown. If you do not want to pay the risk of others don’t buy insurance.
That said, portability should be obvious. It makes no sense to have a diabetic covered under the policy of company A only to have to wait 2 years if he moves to company B...sometimes using the exact same insurer. Now, most folks automaticly cover new hires without questions.

So, like the keeping kids on policies until they are 26: just how big a deal is that? Really doesn’t matter: If you WERE covered, you should BE covered. Even in a market based solution someone will offer that and will gain because of it.

This zerocare boondoggle just has to go away. The replace folks need desparately to step back.


12 posted on 03/09/2017 5:59:17 AM PST by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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The old “Mend it, don’t end it” mantra doesn’t cut it this time around.

Do your job Congress (for once).


18 posted on 03/09/2017 6:09:16 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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Are the repubs complete idiots? By trying to “fix” nobamacare they are taking on responsibility for it. They promised to repeal it. So repeal it! What fools. Have they lied yuet again???


22 posted on 03/09/2017 6:14:04 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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Democrats argue that health care is a “right.”

If health care is a right that the government must provide, then where is my M-16? The 2nd Amendment is a real right as written in the Bill of Rights. If the government must provide health care then they must also provide the arms for me to keep and bear. However, the rights as enumerated in the Bill of Rights are things that the government can't do and not things that the government must do. Health care may be a basic right, but that only means that the government can't block someone from obtaining it as opposed to having to provide it. The government needs to get out of the way and let the market do its job.

27 posted on 03/09/2017 6:22:49 AM PST by Purdue77 (I can't afford a tag line.)
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All the talk about 'we don't have 60 votes' is getting old.

Put the COMPLETE repeal bill up there: forget about reconciliation and whether something is 'germane' or 'not germane' to the budget process. Let the 'Rats filibuster it, as the bloated piece of big government crap known as 0bamacare circles the drain in failure: pin it DIRECTLY on them and make them OWN it.

That's something the Trumpster is good at: using ridicule to make a point: as the 'Rats continue to obstruct, paint them as what's standing in the way.

30 posted on 03/09/2017 6:28:34 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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Let's be consistent.

Repeal Medicare for those over 65. Why should government give healthcare to elderly?

Repeal Medicaid. Even more so, why give free healthcare to the poor?

Repeal, or at least limit, TriCare. Guys with only a couple years in the peacetime military, and no service related medical issues get this benefit for life, why?

Target rich environment if you don't agree that "Health Care is a Right" then these should go.

38 posted on 03/09/2017 6:58:59 AM PST by Jack Black (Dispossession is an obliteration of memory, of place, and of identity)
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bmp


44 posted on 03/09/2017 7:05:27 AM PST by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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45 posted on 03/09/2017 7:05:30 AM PST by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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The fact that every democrat opposes the bill is a positive.


49 posted on 03/09/2017 7:15:19 AM PST by rsobin
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Time and time again, it has been proven that the more we allow the government to get its grubby little fingers into ANYTHING beyond that expressly outlined in the Constitution, the worse it gets.


51 posted on 03/09/2017 7:44:12 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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The myth that selling insurance across state lines will bring down costs in any major way is a myth. Says who? Republicans repeat it as a mantra, but where is the statistics that prove it.

You cannot insure a burning building or a building with termites without spreading the total cost of ‘care’ over lots of folks. You cannot insure medical care for pre-existing conditions without spreading the cost over lot of young folks who normally have lower health care needs. And they don’t want the coverage. They stayed away during Obamacare and they will stay away during Republican care.


65 posted on 03/10/2017 1:02:03 PM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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