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The Iraqi army is on the brink of defeating Islamic State
The Economist ^ | Mar 8th 2017 | The Economist

Posted on 03/08/2017 11:05:53 AM PST by BeauBo

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To: Nothingburger

Bill Clinton.


41 posted on 03/08/2017 9:35:37 PM PST by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: Strac6

I’ve read an opinion that ISIS getting stuff like artillery was a very good thing. When hidden among the people they are hard to kill, but when they gather around their howitzers you know where to put your bomb.


42 posted on 03/09/2017 1:31:49 AM PST by Krosan
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To: BeauBo

You are correct on all accounts, I was just reading more of Naharnet;

There should be adequate response against those who funded, assuming they exist.

OTOH; a fair number of Lebanese officials are sympathetic to the Hezbollah side, so that needs to be considered too.

That horrific war has raged since 2011; so that brings one to ask, was this previously looked into? Why now?

Naharnet for a long time has been a useful source and their commenters offer up interesting musings.


43 posted on 03/09/2017 2:56:36 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Suicide bombing at Tikrit; https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2017/03/09/Twin-suicide-bombing-kills-20-at-a-wedding-north-Baghdad.html 20 killed, this stuff will go on for some time. It’s best for Americans not to be at risk.


44 posted on 03/09/2017 3:01:12 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: BeauBo

ISIS is not “defeated” until they are all dead. Allowing them to escape is not defeating them.


45 posted on 03/09/2017 3:12:57 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Krosan

But rather than using Arty, they can go to the classic Russian 122 and 140 mm rockets, which can be easily hidden and require two sticks to launch them.

http://www.landscaper.net/images/122mmrockt.jpg

This was is not now terrorism. This is classic Stage 2 and Stage 3 Guerilla Warfare, and you can never defeat the guerilla in the field. But, that guerilla cannot ever survive without nation-level logistical support.

You destroy the support base and/or support system, and you have destroyed the guerilla in the field.


46 posted on 03/09/2017 5:16:05 AM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6

a) I don’t think they are very smart. They are fanatics.
b) Where would they get these rockets?


47 posted on 03/09/2017 5:33:03 AM PST by Krosan
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To: BeauBo

Mad Dog sent in Marines and Rangers, they don’t do diplomacy, they kill our enemies.

Iraq, Syria and ISIS all understand that Trump means to keep his promises.


48 posted on 03/09/2017 7:30:48 AM PST by Hillbilly sage
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To: Strac6

“You destroy the support base and/or support system, and you have destroyed the guerilla in the field.”

In Syria, it was Erdogan (Turkey), Obama, and Gulf Arab cash.

Obama’s out, and they are now cut off from Turkey.


49 posted on 03/09/2017 7:52:09 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: Krosan

Fanatics can still dig it up out of the garden, set to a home-brew tripod, point it toward the US or Iraqi Army base.

Then tilt the nose up a certain number of degrees based on the range to the base, using nothing more than a plumb bob and the shadow of the nose of the rocket, light the fuse and run like tell for the Mosque to tell them what a wonderful job you have some.

10,000 NP/PAVN had no problem with the firing process.

Where to get them; From the Sovs or PRC, 6 to a case, 36 to a pallet load, or from your local decent quality sheet metal or machine shop. Tell them it’s to kill Infidels and they will cut you a great deal!


50 posted on 03/09/2017 8:33:04 AM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: BeauBo

Funny how the Obama/Clinton regime is gone - and suddenly, this problem starts to clear itself up.

Coincidence?


51 posted on 03/09/2017 12:41:09 PM PST by PGR88 (The)
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To: BeauBo

The Iraqi army could not punch through a damp paper bag. I assure you!!


52 posted on 03/09/2017 6:59:10 PM PST by WENDLE (The CIA is bugging your TV to listen to you without a warrant.)
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“The Iraqi army could not punch through a damp paper bag.”

The facts say otherwise - they punched their way through Fallujah last year (remember the US Marines had their biggest urban warfare battle since Hue in Vietnam?). They are also punched through about 3/4 of the major city of Mosul.

I assure you.


53 posted on 03/09/2017 7:57:19 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

What a joke. They are worse than the French in battle. They are not winning— WE ARE in their worthless name. KILL ISIS and get the hell out is our objective. Take their oil NOW!!!


54 posted on 03/09/2017 8:01:02 PM PST by WENDLE (The CIA is bugging your TV to listen to you without a warrant.)
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To: BeauBo

isis is being replaced by IRAN.

Look for the King of Saudi Arabia to fall very very soon.


55 posted on 03/09/2017 8:48:57 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: BeauBo

Do the “old” GSR (Gunshot Residue) test on all the young, clean shaven men who claimed that they hid out in their mother’s basement rather than join ISIS.

Let’s see what we come up with.

Oh, guys, also test not only their hands, arms, and clothing but also their shoes and pants legs. GSR will settle in those places if they have fired a weapon.


56 posted on 03/09/2017 10:57:30 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: BeauBo; All

By their pale chins ye shall know them.


57 posted on 03/10/2017 12:28:46 AM PST by gleeaikin (question authority!)
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To: WENDLE

Around a year ago the US military created a new branch of the Iraqi Army called the Counter Terrorism Service. They were created just to fight the Islamic State and are doing most of the real fighting. The Iraqis call them the Golden Division. The CTS has been getting some real work done though the rest of the Iraqi Army is just along for the ride.


58 posted on 03/14/2017 2:40:02 PM PDT by BestPresidentEver
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To: BestPresidentEver

Ok thanks. I appreciate your knowledge. Those people are not worth spit. I just want the ISIS Sunnis slaughtered and then I want to pull the frick out!


59 posted on 03/14/2017 4:55:35 PM PDT by WENDLE (We said REPEAL the socialism NOT replace with other socialism.!! RINOCARE GOES NOWHERE)
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