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Opioids Killing More Now
Economist ^ | 3/9/17 | NA

Posted on 03/08/2017 4:56:16 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight

Let's help.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: death; drugs; wod
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To: BuffaloJack

For every junkie that dies, there’s another one lined up to replace him or her. This epidemic has got to be stopped. Your daughter was lucky that she wasn’t home at the time. a junky looking at withdrawal is a desperate individual.


21 posted on 03/08/2017 5:37:23 AM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: BobL

>>From the map, the problem seems to be worst in Working Class areas, which is why the media is virtually silent on it.

Because those people hurt themselves on the job, and it’s usually jobs where the employer isn’t very compassionate with injured workers who can’t perform 100%. So, they get medicated for pain, because all MDs do is treat symptoms these days, so they can get back to work to keep a roof over their heads.


22 posted on 03/08/2017 5:37:40 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: barbarianbabs

Opioids are not just used by addicts. They can provide real pain relief easily and effectively and no you won’t get addicted to them unless you are just an addictive personality.


23 posted on 03/08/2017 5:37:45 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Pollster1

Amen.


24 posted on 03/08/2017 5:38:52 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: wyowolf

Remember this is the press. The is most likely an agenda when they publish something like this.


25 posted on 03/08/2017 5:39:04 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: MrEdd
Social liberalism? You obviously don't know me.

It's not that. It's about wishing death on teenagers and FR posters making themselves (and the rest of us) look like low-rent morons.

Thanks for the input - Mr.Edd.


26 posted on 03/08/2017 5:44:51 AM PST by AAABEST (Got Traditional Catholicism? - Angelqueen.org)
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To: GailA

Thanks for the information. Condolences.


27 posted on 03/08/2017 5:49:13 AM PST by PGalt (HOORAY President Donald J. Trump)
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To: jsanders2001

Yes the prior administration did all possible to make America suffer. Effective Jan 1st, medicare stopped paying for some opiate medications. It is a nightmare begging the doctor for pain medication for my 80 year old mother. And then to add insult to injury, I get treated like a drug addict at the pharmacy.

The opiate addiction didn’t start with prescription drugs that were legally obtained. So why punish those who need them? I believe it started with the legalization of marijuana in some states. Cartels realized it was much easier to get heroin or opiate pills across our porous southern border. They managed to supply a cheap plentiful high.

I am the parent of an addict. I have attended numerous speeches by police, doctors, counselors etc. One even stated that heroin is being actively marketed to high school or young adult suburban males (whites). Actively marketed?? Think about that. It’s not middle age pill poppers doing the break ins to homes or cars for loose change. I don’t see 30 somethings panhandling on the corners. Again, it makes sense when you stop to realize Obama has done all he can to destroy America!

Build the wall - build it now!! MAGA!


28 posted on 03/08/2017 5:52:58 AM PST by mouse1
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To: GailA
There are 1.33 million chronic pain patient in the US, their health conditions can’t be cured, Opioids are all they have for any form of life beyond a bed still in pain.

I'm one of them. I have terrible lower back and sciatica pain. I've had back surgery, injections, ablations, and physical therapy. Nothing has worked in ten years to alleviate the pain permanently.

If opioids are taken away, I won't be able to walk, much less work. As it is, I'm limited to a small amount per day and have to supplement with Ibuprofen, in amounts not great for maintaining a healthy liver.

29 posted on 03/08/2017 5:53:01 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! She's done and he's won!)
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To: CAluvdubya

Sorry to hear of your suffering. It is terrible that our Country has made it difficult for people truly suffering to obtain relief. People with chronic pain cannot function without opiate pain medication.

I recently tried radiofrequency for low back pain. The nerves causing the pain are burned with a hot needle. They do grow back eventually. Don’t know if you would be a candidate but, I feel 10 years younger. Might be worth asking. Good luck!


30 posted on 03/08/2017 5:58:25 AM PST by mouse1
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

If you have an interest in the subject, I highly recommend bookmarking this particular chart, called an Equinalgesic chart. Many of these drugs are already killing thousands of Americans, often without their knowledge.

“An equianalgesic (or opioid) chart is a conversion chart that lists equivalent doses of analgesics (drugs used to relieve pain). Equianalgesic charts are used for calculation of an equivalent dose (a dose which would offer an equal amount of analgesia) between different analgesics.”

The baseline rating of “1” for the chart is for pure morphine. So most NSAIDs are rated as a fraction of 1, and many opioids as multiples of one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equianalgesic#Opioid_equivalency_table

For example, ordinary Acetaminophen is rated at 1/360th the strength of morphine (though taking 360 Tylenol pills will kill you.)

The strongest three opioids are R-30490, Carfentanil and Lofentanil, rated from 10,000 to 100,000 times the strength of morphine. (So taking from micrograms to milligrams of it will kill you.)

One final note, a smuggler was arrested in Canada with over a KILOGRAM of Carfentanil, and another in Florida with over FOUR KILOGRAMS of Carfentanil.


31 posted on 03/08/2017 6:00:11 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Leftists aren't fascists. They are "democratic fascists", a completely different thing.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Based on your comment, I guess Rush Limbaugh should have died due to his earlier Oxycotin addiction.....

The point, even “good people” can be addicted....

If addicted, they will do anything to get their next fix unless properly treated....

Now, as a society, how to we handle it? Letting the severly addicted die with a needle in their arm is the extreme solution....

But what about the bus driver in the lane next to you who just popped a couple of oxycotin.... or your broker trading in your 401K....

Just die and go away ain’t a solution.....

This has been a problem since the beginning of makind.....


32 posted on 03/08/2017 6:00:17 AM PST by nevergore
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Is there an article? Is there a reason it was not posted? I don’t understand “let’s help” without any background info.


33 posted on 03/08/2017 6:00:22 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Gay State Conservative

If you are dying of cancer where is the worry you will get addicted, that is the way LIBS think. And all this anti opioid is coming from LIBS who abuse prescription pain drugs and need laws they foist on others they won’t obey. Have you heard of ICC bladder disease? Pain meds are the only control these patients have. BAD SCIENCE like climate change crap is responsible for all the false info on opioid use and OD’s. IF you are going to kill yourself you will use what you find convenient to do the job, like a shotgun in your mouth.

No one has mentioned Lyrica, Neurotin, Cymbalta, Xanax, all extremely ADDICTIVE. Some of the most profitable drugs for Big Pharma and Doctors who get kick backs for scripting them. Lyrica users review, very lousy drug as well as being as addictive as heroin. http://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/lyrica/reviews

And Chronic Pain Patients are not that rare, and age is not a factor. 1.33 Million may be a drop in the population bucket, but that is a heck of a lot of people now being denied help.

I have serve spine degeneration that is genetic, that causes Peripheral Neuropathy in arms, legs and hands, it takes 2 seizure drugs to lower a level 10 pain to a 4. I’d be in a wheel chair with out them. 1 is on the DEA list the other is not, took 9 PN drugs to find 1 that worked. But it takes both to work. And that does not address the Osteoporosis or Osteoarthritis or Gastropresis pain. The side effects from the first 2 drugs are horrendous and can kill. GP there is only diet to lower the pain, eat a piece of fruit and you are in agony for 6 hrs that even a pain pill won’t stop.

Yes many are weak creatures, not all are immoral. My brother drank himself into bad health because he could not cope with our mother’s death, he’d not been prepared to cope with life he dropped dead of a heart attack 2 weeks ago due to his alcoholism, even though he had stopped drinking 9 months ago. My PCP went into deep depression when he lost his mom, and now no longer can practice. I’m stuck with his partner who SUCKS.


34 posted on 03/08/2017 6:00:46 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: RC one

> Your daughter was lucky that she wasn’t home at the time. a junky looking at withdrawal is a desperate individual.

When we added up the the damage to the structure and furnishings and the cost of the stuff they stole, it came to $4300.


35 posted on 03/08/2017 6:02:22 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Democrats haven't been this aggitated since Lincoln took away their slaves.)
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To: mouse1
I recently tried radiofrequency for low back pain. The nerves causing the pain are burned with a hot needle. They do grow back eventually. Don’t know if you would be a candidate but, I feel 10 years younger. Might be worth asking. Good luck!

Radiofrequency is what NV pain management doctors refer to as ablation. I've had it done with success on my neck and recently, without success, on my back. I haven't given up on the process, though, as it took two times for it to work before.

36 posted on 03/08/2017 6:05:04 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! She's done and he's won!)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight
Here is your KEY FACTOR!

Data released in recent months show that the opioid epidemic is worsening, driven largely by the rise of fentanyl, a synthetic opioid painkiller 50-100 times more powerful than morphine.

Why the H didn't President GWB or DUMBO burn and keep burned all those Poppy fields in the 2 war zones that fuel the jihadist money supply and the world wide drug use issue?

37 posted on 03/08/2017 6:05:33 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: AAABEST

Put me in the competition,coach. I totally agree. There are organizations that solved the problem of IV drug use. Can you guess who they are?


38 posted on 03/08/2017 6:05:50 AM PST by SanchoP
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To: Gay State Conservative
I’m convinced that the overwhelming majority of addicts are just weak,immoral creatures

First of all...point me to some "moral" creatures. Are you "moral"?

Everyone has issues to deal with and demons to fight and crosses to bear. (Everyone except you of course).

Lots and lots of times this starts out as 16 year old kids getting high off of prescription pills that they are buying for $10 a pop once or twice a month. Then it turn into once or twice a week by 17. Then it turns into 2 or 3 pills 4 times a week by 18. Then it becomes too expensive and turns into a heroin addiction.

These are stupid kids. They don't know what they are getting into until it is too late. I know that every decision that you made when you were 16 or 17 was perfectly in line with what is moral and wise but that isn't the case for all of us. I thank God everyday that prescription drug use and heroin weren't as prevalent when I was a stupid kid.

39 posted on 03/08/2017 6:06:11 AM PST by nitzy
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To: uncbob
>>Wonder if they have an alcoholic data study
Much worse<<

Yep. Hypocrites. All of’em. Alcohol abuse injures/kills more folks than all other drugs...COMBINED.

Yet after a hard day legislating against opioid, law makers slap one another on the back and hop on down to the local pub to throw back a couple of scotch and sodas.

Good grief.

There will always be people who abuse various substances, but to make it harder for those who need these drugs because of a few bone heads is just absurd. If the ferrule gubbamint really was serious about heroin abuse, they'd have shut that border down tighter than a drum during their faux war on drugs.

How many billions have been spent? How many billions of hard earned tax dollars have been sent by U.S. law makers to two bit dictators around the world in this so called war on drugs that ended up in secret Swiss accts?

Good heavens the hypocrisy boggles the mind.

40 posted on 03/08/2017 6:06:12 AM PST by servantboy777
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