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House Republicans Release Plan To Repeal and Replace Obamacare: Key Highlights
zerohedge.com ^ | Mar 6, 2017

Posted on 03/06/2017 5:27:19 PM PST by Helicondelta

The House Republican Obamacare replacement package is finally out, and the two main health care committees — Ways and Means, and Energy and Commerce — are scheduled to start working on the bills on Wednesday.

Here's your speed read on what's in them:

Out:

- All Obamacare taxes

- All Obamacare subsidies, including its premium tax credit

- Individual, employer mandate penalties

- "Cadillac tax" (until 2025)

- No longer will limit the tax break for employer-sponsored health coverage

- No payments to insurers for cost-sharing reductions

- Selling insurance across state lines (can't be done in the "reconciliation" bill)

- Medical malpractice reform (can't be done in the "reconciliation" bill)

In:

- Pre-existing condition coverage

- Continuous coverage — 30 percent penalty if people don't keep themselves insured

- Special fund to help states set up "high-risk" pools, fix their insurance markets, or help low-income patients

- Enrollment in expanded Medicaid will be frozen

- Current enrollees can stay until 2020, and keep getting extra federal funds, until they leave the program on their own

- Medicaid will change to "per capita caps" (funding limits for each person) in fiscal year 2020

- A new, refundable tax credit will be available in 2020 to help people buy health insurance

- Covers five age groups — starts at $2,000 for people in their 20s, increases to $4,000 for people in their 60s

- It's not means tested, but phased out for upper-income people (starting at $75,000 for individuals, $150,000 for families)

- Insurers can charge older customers five times as much as young adults

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KEYWORDS: obamacare2; rinocare; romneycare; romneycareagain; ryancare
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To: RummyChick

Eules for reconciliation process don’t allow it to be included.
Only budget items can be done by reconciliation.


21 posted on 03/06/2017 5:44:00 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Helicondelta

I forget which Congressman it was, but he was explaining that Republicans in the House would work on the bill and eventually send it to the Senate.

Then they’d get their chance to vote on it, amend it or send it back.

And then he said, “ that’s the way a law is supposed to be made in America.”

Love it!


22 posted on 03/06/2017 5:44:30 PM PST by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey playoffs season!)
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To: jafojeffsurf
Who controls the health system and the education system has the country in their hands
23 posted on 03/06/2017 5:44:37 PM PST by californian by choice
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To: bigbob

Of course it won’t. Hillary can’t even see Trump in her rearview mirror. She will be installed any week now. Obamacare is spectacularly popular and the people will do whatever to keep it.

You are brilliant.


24 posted on 03/06/2017 5:45:20 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: Helicondelta

Repeal it. Screw replace. Burn it. All of it. Leave it up to the states if they want to do socialized medicine. Or not.


25 posted on 03/06/2017 5:45:31 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King! Forgive my misspelling when on my tablet)
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To: Helicondelta

Related article posted earlier:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3532172/posts


26 posted on 03/06/2017 5:49:13 PM PST by upchuck (If a Moose has Diarrhea, is that Mooslime? h/t Scrambler Bob)
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To: Helicondelta

So basically they are trying to save the day by letting government continue to be in charge of its people? Now we need to go back and listen to the overlords used against this.


27 posted on 03/06/2017 5:49:48 PM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter. When the shtf, hug a politician.)
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To: cornelis

thanks for this


28 posted on 03/06/2017 5:50:24 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Helicondelta

Sounds like 0bamacare-lite.

What the hell is wrong with a simple REPEAL?
The gubmint has NO CONSTITUTIONAL authority to be in the health care business, and certainly NOT the health insurance business.

This piece of tripe smells to high heaven!


29 posted on 03/06/2017 5:50:30 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2017; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Repeal 16-17
Selling insurance across state lines (can't be done in the "reconciliation" bill)

Why shouldn't insurance be sold across State lines?

Most advocates want to have this provision but under the Senate rules it can't be included in a bill handled under the "reconciliation" process. That would have to be enacted under a process subject to the filibuster rule.

30 posted on 03/06/2017 5:50:54 PM PST by etcb
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To: Helicondelta

Is this another 2000 page monstrosity?


31 posted on 03/06/2017 5:51:22 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: grania

Twitter doing pics of obamacare..and its replacement..like
dukes of hazard
or ghostbusters
etc
some are pretty funny


32 posted on 03/06/2017 5:51:35 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Helicondelta

This has a LONG way to go. Too many things not yet addressed or adequately addressed.


33 posted on 03/06/2017 5:51:52 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Helicondelta

[ Insurers can charge older customers five times as much as young adults ]

WTF???


34 posted on 03/06/2017 5:52:15 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012 ("Be quiet... you are #fakenews!")
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To: Halo-JM

This IS BS NO ONE should be charged a DAMNED PENNY for NOT purchasing something!!! 30% of what money????


35 posted on 03/06/2017 5:53:47 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

If you coverage lapses you will be charged the premium when you go to get it.

I have short term insurance. They should include that


36 posted on 03/06/2017 5:57:15 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Yeah. I noticed that too. They’re really sticking it to older people aren’t they.


37 posted on 03/06/2017 5:57:28 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: Helicondelta; MNnice; jafojeffsurf; Extremely Extreme Extremist; airborne; californian by choice
I like the idea that it goes after the taxes, but I think restoring the deductibility of medical expenses would be a better alternative than paying the local bank to take care of your money until you need it. For me the most insidious part of Obamacare is that it destroys personal freedoms and I don’t see the federal government relinquishing its hold.

Obama’s stimulus bill created the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology and the Health Information Technology Research Centers. These bureaucracies duplicated private sector information bases, utilizing computer technology for coordination and flow of recommendations and policies for medical knowledge. Decisions are guided by a panel exceeding 20 members allowing the dominate political regime over 90% of appointments, while requiring only one physician. Among three separate reports, one evaluation must include health technologies meeting senior and disabled individual needs. Health care provider participation becomes mandatory under Section 13112 of the HITACT Act, if one participates in any government program, including Medicare serving seniors and disabled.

Passage of HR 3962 and Senate legislation adds over 100 new boards, commissions, and programs. For example, a new Medicare Commission, exempt from judicial review, will unilaterally write rules about utilization and pricing of medical devices and drugs often needed by surgeons. The Independent Payment Advisory Board will make decisions about allowable level of Medicare funding for therapies.

The result of all these bureaucracies is rationing healthcare, which is popularly called “Death Panels”. Rationing means government not reducing, but refusing to pay costs. Bureaucrats now have tools to control chronically ill, elderly, and disabled people.

Princeton bioethics professor Peter Singer in the New York Times gave legislative and regulatory intent when saying, “Rationing health care means getting value for the billions spent by setting limits ….There’s no doubt that it’s tough – politically, emotionally, and ethically - to make a decision that means that someone will die sooner than they would have if the decision had gone the other way….The task of health care bureaucrats is then to get the best value for resources ….If a teenager can be expected to live another 70 years, saving that life gains 70 years, whereas a person of 85 can be expected to live another 5 years, then saving the 85-year-old will gain only 5 life-years. That suggests saving one teenager is equivalent to saving 14 85-year-olds”.

The healthcare regulations not covered by this bill match a patient’s judged societal value to federally approved, cost effective treatments. Repeal and replace is critical to thwart destruction of speech and religious freedoms, prevent loss of life without trial, and retain other freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution.

I remain of the opinion that this mess is so harmful in so many ways, that the only cure is complete repeal coupled with simultaneous passage of bills not more than five pages long and written in the Arial font with 12 pitch. These bills would salvage the few legitimate thoughts existing and address the host of ways in which government intrusion into delivery of health care/insurance is unreasonable. Congress should also do away with tort laws giving millions to lawyers and only thousands to victims. The ultimate benefit to society could be achieved by cutting financial awards and concurrently making it easier to pierce the corporate veil to hold individuals civilly and criminally responsible.

The "Costs" of Medical Care http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2009/11/03/the-costs-of-medical-care-n1088569

ObamaCare ‘death panel’ faces growing opposition from Democrats http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/316045-obamacare-cost-cutting-board-faces-growing-opposition-from-democrats

Why We Must Ration Health Care http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/magazine/19healthcare-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

RAW DATA: GOP List of New 'Bureaucracies' in House Health Care Bill http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/02/raw-data-gop-list-new-bureaucracies-house-health-care/

Text HR 3200 for GOP List of ‘Bureaucracies’ http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200rh/pdf/BILLS-111hr3200rh.pdf

Health Care Bill H.R. 3590 Thomas(library of congress) Signed By Obama http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdf

Republicans release more complex Obamacare chart http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003844/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/jul/28/republicans-release-new-more-complex-obamacare-cha/

38 posted on 03/06/2017 5:57:54 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: RummyChick

“Trump better veto this”

Ryan says take it or leave it.

So your choices are Ryancare or Obamacare.


39 posted on 03/06/2017 5:57:55 PM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Each state currently has an “Insurance Commission” (or similar), so rules/policies vary state to state. Feds would have to work with all 50 states to hammer out blanket 50 state health policies. Congress probably thought it was too much work??


40 posted on 03/06/2017 5:58:17 PM PST by Drago
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