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Analysis: Does Obama Have Grounds to Sue Trump for Libel?
NBC ^ | March 6, 2017 | Phil McCausland and Ari Melber and Diana Marinaccio

Posted on 03/06/2017 5:28:26 AM PST by Pinkbell

President Donald Trump's newest pivot might be his way to divert attention from his own Russia troubles by leveling a Watergate-level conspiracy allegation at former President Barack Obama.

But this latest assertion that Obama ordered illegal surveillance of Trump Tower during the 2016 election — tweeted without evidence — could build and get the president into some legal hot water.

Although the law provides a great deal of leeway for political speech, that protection is not all encompassing. And because of the way Trump has leveled unsubstantiated accusations at Obama, he may have libeled his predecessor.

"He's basically stating that Mr. Obama committed crimes, and to state that somebody has committed a crime when it's false is clearly defamatory," said Benjamin Zipursky, who teaches defamation law at Fordham University Law School in New York.

"The question is: Is there enough evidence of serious reckless disregard to send that case to a jury?" Zipursky added. "I don't know what a court would decide on that, but there is some evidence of recklessness."

It's difficult for public figures to win libel cases.

Most courts rule against them because the assumption is that they have chosen to make their lives an open book, which means people will talk about them. But past Supreme Court cases have created a basic standard that seeks to answer two legal questions:

Was the statement false?

Did the person know it was false or was he or she reckless about whether it was false?

The answer to both questions must be yes, and that could be a difficult conclusion to draw.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angryseditionmonkey; mediabias; obama; trump; wiretap
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To: Pinkbell

Obama would never sue Trump for libel because of what an investigation would reveal.


41 posted on 03/06/2017 5:51:07 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: Pinkbell

I do not think a POTUS can be sued for his actions done in office


42 posted on 03/06/2017 5:53:06 AM PST by RonnG
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To: HarleyD

No. The more important question is “Do the American people have grounds to sue the nyt for libel because of their dishonesty and chronic lies”?


43 posted on 03/06/2017 5:53:52 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: Pinkbell

obama is considered a public figure, isn’t he?


44 posted on 03/06/2017 5:55:08 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: Pinkbell

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

The last thing Hussein wants is to stand in a court.

NBC is fake news.


45 posted on 03/06/2017 5:56:29 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Pinkbell

“tweeted without evidence”

Stopped reading there.


46 posted on 03/06/2017 5:57:02 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: Williams

See the Trey Gowdy interview on Fox last Thursday after the
“highly specific” closed secret briefing to the Special Committee on Intelligence. After the meeting Adam Schiff (D) house ranking member was “dismissive” and vague. Gowdy said in all his years as a former federal prosecutor, speaking with hundreds of FBI intel and criminal investigators he had never had such a full briefing, holding very little back (secrecy wise, and Gowdy would not categorize or say what that content was), and that Adam Schiff must have attended a different meeting.

Finally— Gowdy said, if you have a choice of a NYT reporter or Director Comey, he’d recommend listening to Comey.


47 posted on 03/06/2017 5:58:57 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Pinkbell

Ah, from NBC, of course.


48 posted on 03/06/2017 5:59:02 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Pinkbell

“...tweeted without evidence...”

Looking at trump’s history since the election, does anyone actually believe he doesn’t have hard evidence in this????


49 posted on 03/06/2017 6:00:09 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Pinkbell
This is an admission that the democrat fascists know they've stepped into a steaming pile of poop. They've lost the public and are now trying to move to the judicial arena they always use to shove their agenda down the throats of people they can win over.

JMHo

50 posted on 03/06/2017 6:01:27 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Pinkbell

LOLOLOLOL!! Like Odungho wants his crimes exposed in court.


51 posted on 03/06/2017 6:09:09 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Pinkbell
If the allegations are true, you dare not sue, else yourself you will screw!

(...and your friends)

52 posted on 03/06/2017 6:12:22 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: Pinkbell

NBC is trying as hard as they can to get people to think “OMG!!!! Trump is going to be sued...Oh worry, worry, worry!!!!”


53 posted on 03/06/2017 6:15:30 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Pinkbell

NBC= Nothing But Crap.


54 posted on 03/06/2017 6:16:14 AM PST by jmacusa (Election 2016. The Battle of Midway for The Democrat Party.)
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To: Pinkbell

Test Question: Who wrote the story?

1. Story written by 8th grade intern.
2. Unemployed individual formerly a congressional I.T. staffer
3. Columbia School of Journalism graduate


55 posted on 03/06/2017 6:22:27 AM PST by ptsal
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To: Williams
Perhaps, a credible source for the story could be found over at CBS?

The may be a pipeline from there to the former adivisor to #44.

Looks like all roads are bumpy and full of potholes.

56 posted on 03/06/2017 6:30:28 AM PST by ptsal
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To: Pinkbell

If Obama DOESN’T sue, it is an admission of crime. Wonder if NBC considered that? Opens up Obama for discovery. I have used that technique on my book about Harry Reid, no one wants to sue me because of discovery.


57 posted on 03/06/2017 6:48:43 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: Pinkbell

Go for it, Barack.

Discovery ought to be a blast!


58 posted on 03/06/2017 7:27:21 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Williams

Don’t know why, but I have this feeling that this thing hasn’t fully exploded. There’s more mischief to uncover.


59 posted on 03/06/2017 7:33:57 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: Pinkbell

Please do so Obama can be hauled in for the discovery process.


60 posted on 03/06/2017 8:22:33 AM PST by monkeybrau
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