Posted on 02/25/2017 11:10:06 AM PST by WilliamIII
There are all sorts of theories about Donald Trump’s affinity for Vladimir Putin’s Russia, ranging from shadowy business dealings with Putin or pro-Putin entities, to Russia’s alleged material aid in promoting Trump’s presidential candidacy, to the personal affinity between two men who yearn for recognition as world-historical figures. A related question is why so many Republicans — who four years ago were cheering Mitt Romney’s prophecies of a new Cold War struggle with Russia — have accepted Trump’s Russophilia.
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Married to Russian and having spent a lot of time in the local Russian community, I have some observations:
Russians are just like us.
They like the same music, watch the same movies and tv shows, eat the same food, celebrate the same holidays and share the same values. They look like us. They dress like us. They act like us. They like to laugh, love, cook, eat, and drink and raise their children to be good people. They are proud of their accomplishments, of their heritage, of their Christian religion, not ashamed.
Given the choice between a family of Somalis, Syrians, Afghans, Iraqis, Sudanese, etc. moving into the house next door or a Russian family, I'll take Russian neighbors any day of the week.
Yet we're supposed to hate these people while welcoming with open arms every wretched third worlder that finds their way to our shores.
There are some Evangelicals who believe that Vladimir Putin is a sincere Orthodox Christian and an opponent of modern decadence, but it would be wrong to say think that all Evangelicals or Christian conservatives think that way.
One big fat planted assumption. I doubt there was no other purpose for the article but the “of course”- Trump is an ally of Putin and implicitly an agent of Russia. That is not probable, maybe not possible. Trump is much keener than that. He and Putin will agree on things that are beneficial to both of their nations. Trump does not see Putin as an enemy though he certainly keeps that possibility on his screen.
It is highly likely that the DNC was not hacked but rather the information was donated by a disgruntled DNC staffer, Seth Rich, perhaps.
The Islamist threat is greater in Russia because the percentage of Moslems in the population is much higher than ours. The threat is greater but the Russians are actively fighting the threat while our government has been promoting it for a couple of decades.
A great example of fake news. Conservatives generally acknowledge Putin as a strong leader, who must be dealt with accordingly. This should be contrasted with former President “I can be more flexible with Russia” and his Secretary of State, Mrs. “Reset Button.”
However, conservatives are also not blind to the other dangers of the world, and there are points on which the interests of the US and those of Russia are not opposed.
The Democrats who are making Russia the ogre today, had nothing but kind and conciliatory words to say in the Soviet era. Could they just be mad that Russia dumped Communism?
POTUS Trump is trying to prevent the genocide of CHRISTIANS and so is Putin,
POTUS Trump is trying to prevent the genocide of CHRISTIANS and so is Putin,
What an excellent post, and with experience behind it.
Russians are white Christians - that’s why the Left hates them.
No, they’re not bullied by the homos. They kick sh*t out of them. It’s what some folks think Christ really wants.
Putin has a state-church. He’s the head of it. The priests are paid by the government. It’s a swell form of Christianity that assures everyone agrees with Putin. Very nice.
And I thought Christians wanted Justice more than power. I thought the will to power, like the self-serving president for Putin seeks, was a product of his amoral nihilistic days. It turns out he’s just a well-meaning Christian.
When I want to know what the “Christian Right” thinks about something I naturally turn to some clown at NY Mag......
They really don’t get it - they act as if we’re as simple and willing to use any small reason to blindly follow someone and believe what they believe. It’s amazing our side has been losing so much - pure cowardliness on the part of our “representatives” over the decades.
You respond obliquely to my comment.
I said Christians love, not want, Divine power AND Authority, and I followed that with the explanation that we will gravitate towards a man that has those qualities.
It's actually taught in the scriptures that the man is to be like Christ and the woman in submission, a picture of the church AND a picture of the world.
There is no perfect man, but some men command attention (it's called "presence" ) just by emulating Godly qualities.
Godly qualities are not only the meekness and love of God, but His authority as well.
The books you love and read by dead men are just as "powerful" because anything that influences or changes the way a man thinks by altering his thought processes is as powerful as God Himself .... Who desires to do the same thing.
I see Putin as a gangster statesman who kills his political opponents for political and financial reasons, takes hunks of countries to distract the people and build an empire, as a dictator who has displaced 1.8 million Ukrainians, killed many innocents in Syria with indiscriminate bombing, killed over 10 thousand in Ukraine, and caused unnecessary conflict in Europe. You see him, it seems, as an admirable man with the blessings of the Bible, a paladin of Christ whose sins from the KGB Gulag days are washed away by his aggressive bombing campaigns. You and I just don’t see eye to eye on what a Just War is or what a Christian believes. I see the Christian Church as an advocate for individual human dignity and restraint on unjust power. I do not buy the idea that a state run Church like Putin’s is going to restrain him or even speak up for victims of the state.
>> Russia has the highest rate of abortion in the world. <<
Cut it out. You’re not allowed to criticize Russia or Putin on this thread.
One of the ways Putin protects Christians is by killing his neighboring Christians in Ukraine and by labeling any opposition to be Nazis, a trick that survives from his communist days when he was a faithful servant of the Gulag state, the evil empire. People are remarkably gullible about this former KGB Colonel and his fake news. Apparently, they judge him not by his deeds but by the nonsense spouted by his apologists.
>> I see Putin as a gangster statesman <<
Looks like you don’t belong around here. Putin is now A-OK on FR.
We know Putin could end abortion anytime he wants, but he won’t. He has the power to do this. His admirers, of course, like it when he uses his power to protect the family inherited dictatorship of Assad. His attacks in Syria, like Assad’s, are primarily against any alternative to Assad that is not ISIS or al Qaeda. Assad and Putin do their best to assure that the only path forward there is with Putin’s puppet in charge. If that means leaving ISIS to the Americans and the Kurds to fight, fine. Yet this war gives him street cred with some Christians that ignores other non-Christian things, like, for example his abortion policy. If he were so profoundly Christian, he would shutdown their clinics. Russia is a dying country, a very unChristian approach to life. And Putin won’t even shut the abortion clinics for practical reasons. So so much for the “Putin is a swell” Christian claptrap. He’s simply not doing the things he could do to protect life and Christianity, unless owning a state run church counts in his favor.
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