Posted on 02/23/2017 11:58:06 AM PST by Eagle Forgotten
House Republicans and the Trump administration on Tuesday filed a joint motion seeking to delay lawsuit proceedings that threaten to undo President Barack Obama's health care law, the Affordable Care Act.
The House v. Price suit – formerly known as House v. Burwell, as it was filed when Sylvia Mathews Burwell was health and human services secretary – has presented Republicans with one of their most straightforward routes toward fulfilling their stated desire to do away with or dismantle Obamacare.
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The lawsuit, first filed by House Republicans against the Obama administration in 2014, challenged whether the administration legally allocated billions of dollars in funding to health insurance companies to help low-income people pay for out-of-pocket medical expenses. A federal judge sided with the lawmakers in the case, but the funds continued to be allocated as the Obama administration appealed.
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Doesn’t make sense. Only the one looking to change something needs a majority. For the party that won last before SCOTUS, a tie is just as good.
You want them to run this through the courts?
For what? so some lib judge of the “resistance” can rule against them?
Then what are we going to do? Sit here on FR posting “impeach”, “remove this judge”, “this judge ought to be arrested”, and other assorted forms of digital fist-shaking?
The dems cannot defeat Trump, but the slimy smarmy should be burned alive RINOs can.
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Trump is part of the delay. The reasoning is a replacement isn’t available yet. His promise was to repeal and replace. I know the “replace” part enrages some people, but that was his promise and that’s what he’s going to do.
bfl
After what happened with Roberts last time, I don’t want to take any chances.
And I personally would rather it be legislated away, but that’s personal opinion.
Delaying the lawsuit proceedings is very likely an acknowledgement that the whole lawsuit is soon going to be rendered moot by pending changes to ObamaCare and/or HHS regulations. The "Burwell" listed in the original case was the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services under Obama when the lawsuit was filed. Burwell is probably rummaging through garbage dumpsters for her meals now, and the ObamaCare provisions that were the subject of this lawsuit are likely being changed as we discuss this now.
We jsut repeal it — but we don’t delay, and we continue the legal process.
They might be waiting for the SC to fill up, or it just doesn’t make sense to get into a lengthy legal battle now that both sides of the suit are of the same mind. Who knows? What is clear is that the easiest route is the one they’ve chosen to AVOID.
Step 1. Repeal, in total, everything passed as part of the ACA. Reverse it. Nuke it. Whatever it takes.
Step 2. Take the hits from the left, but get back to the free market.
Part of me thinks this is smart because we don’t want the entire first year of Trumps administration to be about Obamacare. Just like Obama and the Dems got wrapped around the axle of healthcare their first year—which was a blessing because they didn’t do much else when they controlled all 3 branches—maybe Trump and the GOP want to keep that from happening. That implies the GOP has a strategy.
I’ve read that the GOP is unwilling to shoulder the responsibility of what comes after. Many Americans have lost the ability to do anything without the blessing of the FedGov, and their first instinct (and Trump’s it would appear) is that the Gov’t must DO SOMETHING to help healthcare, instead of the obvious thing which is get out of the market completely. However, now there are so many regulations and so much money tied to this, they can’t let it go back to the people. In short, there is no scenario where the Federal Gov’t (and by proxy the President at the time) won’t be seen as the manager of our healthcare. Call it Obamacare, Trumpcare, whatever.
It would make me feel better if Trump said “I want to wash my hands of healthcare completely. I don’t want my name on anything because the Feds should have no hand in it.”
I’m still hoping he’s got that as his endgame.
Naw, I already did that. Seems like I had just straightened up and now I gotta do it again. :(
Nope, they don't. Not even Trump.
If nothing else, it has the potential of being a convenient political football.
I can’t buy “waiting for Gorsuch” as an excuse. The parties could just stipulate to the dismissal of the appeal, which would automatically reinstate the lower court’s decision.
Even if some intervenor could establish standing (unlikely), the case is still only in the Circuit Court. There would be a briefing schedule, then after briefs there’s the wait for the oral argument, then the wait for a decision, then if someone appeals there’s another round of briefing. The case is at least a year away from reaching SCOTUS.
The court has NOTHING to do with this at this time, the DAMNED CONGRESS makes the laws!!! This DAMNED BILL needs to be repealed NOW!!! When Roberts voted for this he said in his ruling if WE wanted it changed we NEEDED to VOTE for a government to change the DAMNED THING!!! WE NOW have voted a government to change the DAMNED thing and these BASTARDS are sitting on their hands!!! This has NOTHING to do with Gorsuch it would take months to get anything to the SCOTUS!!!
The point of the thread had to do with why delay the Court case. It was to that I was responding.
For my in depth views on what the Democrats from LBJ through Obama have done to American medical care: Panacea Or Death Potion?.
This is the second time around ... instead of 0bamas we gots Ellison for 0bama, and Sanders’ crazies at the street level instead of Billory’s.
I know how that feels. He will not give up.
Let's see what he has to say when he addresses Congress.
Good points, both.
Some do. Cruz, Lee, Paul, Amash, Sanford, a handful of others. But the Republican leaders don’t.
Here’s the replacement plan:
MSAs that are fully tax deductible like IRAs.
Insurance can be sold in every state by any insurer.
This addresses teh problems, enhances the free market, and gets teh government out of the way.
And BTW, let’s repeal teh 1965 Kennedy health care law too.
Medical Savings Accounts are already tax deductible and are already available for certain kinds of coverage...if your employer offers one. What are you proposing for people whose company does not want to offer an MSA? Or can't afford the administrative costs? Do you propose to have the government start sponsoring them?
Insurance can be sold in every state by any insurer.
Tenth Amendment issues aside, it won't make a difference. It's been tried by several states and the problem has always been getting out of state insurance companies to sell policies in states where they don't have a network of providers set up and aren't willing to go through the time and expense of establishing one for a handful of customers.
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