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1 posted on 02/23/2017 5:08:34 AM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 02/23/2017 5:09:26 AM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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“does not summarily deport employed, crime-free, undocumented immigrants who have lived here for years,”

Just save them for last.

In the meantime, ensure they don’t receive benefits.


3 posted on 02/23/2017 5:17:03 AM PST by fruser1
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.....as for other criminal acts by illegals, a far larger percentage may have committed identity theft and/or falsified government documents.....

NOTE: falsifying documents is the criminal MO to obscure commission of even larger crimes.

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A Pew Report found most of the illegal 8 million jobholder worked in violation of US law. They falsified federal employment forms stating they were legally allowed to work.

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One of Trump's EO’s goes after illegals who falsified govt documents. Trump’s order calls for targeting anyone who lied on federal employment forms. NOTE: Trump needs to consider falsification of other documents......like welfare forms, EITC tax refund apps, school documents, birth certificates...and so on.

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REFERENCE---Falsifying Government Documents involves altering, changing, or modifying a document for the purpose of deception.......can also involve forgery and/or passing copies of false documents. Falsifying documents is usually done in connection with broader criminal aims, such as extortion, government fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, financing terrorism........

Types of documents commonly falsified may include:
◾Tax returns and income statements
◾Personal checks
◾Bank account records
◾Business record keeping books
◾Immigration documents (such as visas, passports, etc.)
◾Identification cards and birth certificates

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting factual information such as prices or monetary amounts
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Concealing assets or property WRT obtaining federal/state grants))
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

A person can only be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.

Falsifying govt documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years. Also, if government documents or authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. ..... legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.

4 posted on 02/23/2017 5:19:52 AM PST by Liz (Coulters L a: the MSM's delay in reporting a perp means the less likely its a white Christian)
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To: Kaslin

How can an illegal work without the employer and employee breaking the law?


5 posted on 02/23/2017 5:28:47 AM PST by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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Ronald Reagan made a huge mistake with his amnesty. I would hope that President Trump does not make the same mistake.

With the high percentage of young adults still living at home, unable to find jobs much less build careers, I would think that the harm of allowing illegal aliens to take the starter jobs at less than minimum wage would be very easy to explain to people.

We are not helping the desperately poor of Mexico and South America by allowing them into the US to be little more than slaves. We actually help them more by preventing them from entering our country and deporting them when they do. When they remain in their home country, they put pressure on their government to address the problems that make them so poor in the first place.

Fix the problems in other countries, don’t import them here and allow them to fester.


8 posted on 02/23/2017 5:38:56 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Anyone know what happened to the revised immigration ban we were promised by President Trump by earliy this week?


9 posted on 02/23/2017 5:42:01 AM PST by TonyM
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Yet for those undocumented immigrants who are working, crime-free and have established residence, the Trump administration will learn that the public supports some sort of accommodation that might lead to a fine, followed by the opportunity to apply for a green card.

Given those realities, the next immigration fault line will hinge on the definition of a "crime."

That ain't my reality bub.

F U VDH. Caving in is never a good policy.

10 posted on 02/23/2017 5:42:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Message to all amnesty whores: The next citizen run over by an illegal may be you or one of your family.


11 posted on 02/23/2017 5:43:45 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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“...desperately poor...”
****
Often true. But Americans cannot be expected fix everyone’s sad story. Let the left wing billionaires pay to help their poster child sob stories.


12 posted on 02/23/2017 5:46:07 AM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Kaslin

VDH is a squish.


13 posted on 02/23/2017 5:46:58 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Bookmark. VDH always makes sense.


18 posted on 02/23/2017 6:00:32 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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We do not tolerate people who do not follow our rules.

We put those people into prison.

Illegally entering our country is not following our rules.


20 posted on 02/23/2017 6:01:02 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Defacto Amnesty="In sum, after the border is closed, and as long as the Trump administration does not summarily deport employed, crime-free, undocumented immigrants who have lived here for years, its reform agenda will quickly win the debate and at last return immigration to a legal enterprise."

I get it. Orwellian speech is sign of a globalist.

< doublespeak > crime-free, undocumented immigrants < /doublespeak >

24 posted on 02/23/2017 6:07:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Good article, but he forgot to mention the DUI illegals who murder our citizens driving the wrong way on the freeway. There must be thousands of them. We had a local example here in east central Illinois on New Years Eve. No drivers license, the police kept one of a number of passports, had been deported 4(?) times. Had a broken arm set at the hospital, but the police and state patrol seemed to have no interest in retaining him. Now months after the incident, they are looking for him.


30 posted on 02/23/2017 7:13:15 AM PST by Western Phil
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Re: “...deporting productive and law-abiding residents who entered the U.S. illegally will not win support for Trump himself.”

Wanna bet?

Once the Uni-Party and the lawyers and the activist judges define "productive and law-abiding residents," 99% of illegal immigrants will qualify.

The other 1% will be too drunk to fill out the automatically approved paper work.

33 posted on 02/23/2017 12:28:46 PM PST by zeestephen
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