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Automation and its effects on jobs: The Huge Economic Issue that Washington Isn't Talking About
PJ Media ^ | 02/16/2017 | Rick Moran

Posted on 02/18/2017 5:54:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/18/2017 5:54:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

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Highly recommended.


2 posted on 02/18/2017 5:56:27 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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3 posted on 02/18/2017 6:01:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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4 posted on 02/18/2017 6:02:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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5 posted on 02/18/2017 6:04:23 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Life is all about choices.

Corporations have the right to use robots.

Citizens have the right not to buy products.

Some of these choices will become very easy when corporations grasp that reality.

Folks aren’t going to watch every job handed over to a robot and not devise a policy to fight back.

Just because you can do something, it doesn’t make it right.

Unless corporations can find a way to pay robots the $0.50 cents an hour wage they want, and then let the robots buy things, their little pipe dream won’t work.

Not sure what you can buy for $0.50 cents an hour, but the corporate brain trusts must.


6 posted on 02/18/2017 6:11:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll be glad when the media gives this subject thoughtful dicussion instead of sensationalism and boneheadedness (basic income).


7 posted on 02/18/2017 6:17:18 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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But this is a fantasy. Those jobs didn't go overseas.

This is a left wing (maybe chamber of commerce) lie! It is true that automation replaces some manufacturing jobs, but not entirely, unlike offshoring a factory. China has added millions of manufacturing jobs over the last decade.


^^ not robots, chinese manufacturing

It is tough enough to deal with the job losses due to automation, but automation + China is suicide.

8 posted on 02/18/2017 6:18:57 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: SeekAndFind

they ignore that there will be a big increase in the demand for robot repairmen.


9 posted on 02/18/2017 6:22:00 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this scenario is real, how can we justify ANY large scale immigration at all?


10 posted on 02/18/2017 6:26:03 PM PST by Gulf War One
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To: SeekAndFind

A factor I keep bringing up but liberals ignore - if there are fewer jobs due to automation, then it immoral to bring in more unskilled and skilled labor to compete for the declining number of jobs that cannot be automated or outsourced.


11 posted on 02/18/2017 6:27:35 PM PST by tbw2
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We already went through this with agriculture.

Most agricultural jobs went away form 1910 to 1950.

Now manufacturing jobs have been decreasing for 30 years already.

Service jobs have picked up. Lots of service jobs are good paying, like realtors or medical workers.

Making everything far more productive is a good problem to have.


12 posted on 02/18/2017 6:30:31 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would propose a lot of deregulation for business People will have to be self employed if they are not going to be employees.

Not a perfect solution but can be done.


13 posted on 02/18/2017 6:53:09 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Wait a minute - I supposed to have a robot-driven flying car by now.

More robots in the future - sure.
Massive worker displacement?

More than Obama displaced??


14 posted on 02/18/2017 6:53:34 PM PST by ASOC (Have *you* visited the World of the Chernyi?)
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“Service jobs have picked up. Lots of service jobs are good paying, like realtors or medical workers.”

“Making everything far more productive is a good problem to have.”

Many other service jobs pay pathetic wages. I think you are glossing over reality here. I would really hate to be a young person starting out in this economy. This is not really comparable to the industrial revolution or the agricultural revolution. Someone else posted a remark about jobs REPAIRING robots but what I expect is that robots will build robots and robots will repair robots. As far as medical jobs what reason is there to believe that robots cannot take over those jobs too? I am not suggesting that we can go back to the old days, I just don’t see how all this is necessarily going to lead to paradise on Earth.


15 posted on 02/18/2017 6:57:50 PM PST by RipSawyer (At the end of the day...the sun goes down.)
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BTTT


16 posted on 02/18/2017 6:57:57 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (STOP THE TAPE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

And what happens when the driverless truck has a flat tire?


17 posted on 02/18/2017 6:58:09 PM PST by fso301
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There is a natural feedback effect.

If there is no one to buy the products produced at automated factories, then the factories go out of business.

There is no point in having robots make things that no one buys.

There have always been short term dislocations, and that is the biggest problem, if change happens very fast, the dislocations are harsher. One sixth of the economy is now in medical care, and most of those jobs are hard to automate. Maybe it will climb to one third.

I do not know, but the more we try to control things, the more likely we are to make mistakes.

I do not like the idea of a guaranteed income. Maybe we could guarantee low paying, subsidized jobs, that everyone would like to get out of...


18 posted on 02/18/2017 7:05:48 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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I've been worrying about this problem for over 20 years. I don't see any good solutions yet. A guaranteed income is not a solution, as the boredom will encourage criminal behavior. The Pollyannas claim that it will free people to be more creative, but personally, I don't buy it.
19 posted on 02/18/2017 7:25:31 PM PST by chb
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You allude to a growing need for the increase in the need for medical care; geriatric care will see a huge increase in employment. Who knows, perhaps factory products will become very cheap. Barring a cataclysm, things will get better.


20 posted on 02/18/2017 7:47:06 PM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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