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1 posted on 02/18/2017 5:54:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Free movie on Amazon, ‘Obsolete’

Highly recommended.


2 posted on 02/18/2017 5:56:27 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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Life is all about choices.

Corporations have the right to use robots.

Citizens have the right not to buy products.

Some of these choices will become very easy when corporations grasp that reality.

Folks aren’t going to watch every job handed over to a robot and not devise a policy to fight back.

Just because you can do something, it doesn’t make it right.

Unless corporations can find a way to pay robots the $0.50 cents an hour wage they want, and then let the robots buy things, their little pipe dream won’t work.

Not sure what you can buy for $0.50 cents an hour, but the corporate brain trusts must.


6 posted on 02/18/2017 6:11:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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I’ll be glad when the media gives this subject thoughtful dicussion instead of sensationalism and boneheadedness (basic income).


7 posted on 02/18/2017 6:17:18 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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But this is a fantasy. Those jobs didn't go overseas.

This is a left wing (maybe chamber of commerce) lie! It is true that automation replaces some manufacturing jobs, but not entirely, unlike offshoring a factory. China has added millions of manufacturing jobs over the last decade.


^^ not robots, chinese manufacturing

It is tough enough to deal with the job losses due to automation, but automation + China is suicide.

8 posted on 02/18/2017 6:18:57 PM PST by Wayne07
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they ignore that there will be a big increase in the demand for robot repairmen.


9 posted on 02/18/2017 6:22:00 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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If this scenario is real, how can we justify ANY large scale immigration at all?


10 posted on 02/18/2017 6:26:03 PM PST by Gulf War One
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A factor I keep bringing up but liberals ignore - if there are fewer jobs due to automation, then it immoral to bring in more unskilled and skilled labor to compete for the declining number of jobs that cannot be automated or outsourced.


11 posted on 02/18/2017 6:27:35 PM PST by tbw2
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I would propose a lot of deregulation for business People will have to be self employed if they are not going to be employees.

Not a perfect solution but can be done.


13 posted on 02/18/2017 6:53:09 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Wait a minute - I supposed to have a robot-driven flying car by now.

More robots in the future - sure.
Massive worker displacement?

More than Obama displaced??


14 posted on 02/18/2017 6:53:34 PM PST by ASOC (Have *you* visited the World of the Chernyi?)
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And what happens when the driverless truck has a flat tire?


17 posted on 02/18/2017 6:58:09 PM PST by fso301
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I've been worrying about this problem for over 20 years. I don't see any good solutions yet. A guaranteed income is not a solution, as the boredom will encourage criminal behavior. The Pollyannas claim that it will free people to be more creative, but personally, I don't buy it.
19 posted on 02/18/2017 7:25:31 PM PST by chb
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Been hearing this sort of talk since at least the 50s. Didn’t happen then and won’t happen now.


21 posted on 02/18/2017 7:52:14 PM PST by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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"Basic income", the Progressive solution, is already in practise in one nation:


22 posted on 02/18/2017 7:56:06 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Prices will drop, and quality will rise across the board.

Medical careers are far from a sure thing - as more diseases will be cured, we may need fewer health care workers.

The power of robotics and AI will become better and cheaper, becoming available to any entrepreneur, just as the Internet is today.


24 posted on 02/18/2017 8:17:27 PM PST by BeauBo
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I hope I can still make buggy whips next year...


25 posted on 02/18/2017 8:45:19 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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Even as robots and AI systems make for cheaper production and greater material abundance, there will still be a need for skilled people who can think up and refine new equipment, products, and processes. Customer service jobs will also remain in demand, even if only as genial and informed expert mediators between ordinary customers and the AI systems that are coming to dominate many service industries. The real problem with employment is that at every level, from K to 12, from college freshman to post-graduate and workplace education, our educational system and methods are poorly suited to their tasks. We urgently need better ways to motivate, teach, and otherwise prepare people for the new job market.


30 posted on 02/18/2017 10:42:02 PM PST by Rockingham
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Not really, this is just a continuation of a long line of automation, including other IT developments, that have helped to make American workers more productive and thus earn them a higher standard of living.

It has become the cover-up excuse for the dysfunctional Obama economy, just as “stagflation” was supposedly the new, inevitable and permanent state of our economy during the Carter era.

Don’t buy into the BS. The problems we have with tech involve its roll in our voluntarily harnessing ourselves into a police state of surveillance and control—not with the rising efficiency making our jobs obsolete.

Just kick out enough of the illegals and we’ll have plenty of better-paying jobs for low-skilled Americans.


33 posted on 02/19/2017 4:50:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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But this is a fantasy. Those jobs didn't go overseas. They're forever gone as super-intelligent machines are making human beings superfluous.

Here s the most disingenuous statement of the century. The USA imports Trillions of dollars of durable goods every year. Goods that used to be made in the USA. So the writer would have us ignore the millions of container ships that poor into the USA every year. We run a $800B dollar trade deficit every year which amounts to $70B in lost wages, perhaps over 2 million blue collar jobs.

Worm tongued Globlaist link automation with offshoring. Don't fall for it.

37 posted on 02/19/2017 5:21:26 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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It is hard to discuss trade, economics and automation with radical Free Traitors™ because like their open border cousins who disingenuously link immigration and illegal aliens they link automation and offshoring together which are totally different things.


46 posted on 02/19/2017 5:49:56 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The problem will sort itself out once enough people go broke and/or die off, and once corporations realize that dead people don't buy their products.

There is also the matter of the recent talk about a basic living wage for everyone, and a cashless society. These are hoped for means of preventing the population from revolting while we are culled via engineered plagues, wars, and muzz slime terrorism. Those outside the system will be starved. Agenda 21 - ain't it grand?

In the end it will be a high tech civilization of a half billion people modeled on ancient Egypt, ruled by a small class of self anointed godheads, and a vast underclass of artisans and useful idiots - not different than the current democrat party.

47 posted on 02/19/2017 6:07:24 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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