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The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies
Intercept, the ^ | 14 February 2017 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 02/17/2017 11:55:00 AM PST by Lorianne

It is, of course, bizarre to watch this principle now so widely celebrated. Over the last eight years, President Obama implemented the most vindictive and aggressive war on whistleblowers in all of U.S. history. As Leonard Downie, one of the editors at the Washington Post during the Watergate investigation, put it in a special report: “The [Obama] administration’s war on leaks and other efforts to control information are the most aggressive I’ve seen since the Nixon administration.”

It’s hard to put into words how strange it is to watch the very same people — from both parties, across the ideological spectrum — who called for the heads of Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, Tom Drake, and so many other Obama-era leakers today heap praise on those who leaked the highly sensitive, classified SIGINT information that brought down Gen. Flynn.

It’s even more surreal to watch Democrats act as though lying to the public is some grave firing offense when President Obama’s top national security official, James Clapper, got caught red-handed not only lying to the public but also to Congress — about a domestic surveillance program that courts ruled was illegal. And despite the fact that lying to Congress is a felony, he kept his job until the very last day of the Obama presidency.

But this is how political power and the addled partisan brain in D.C. functions. Those in power always regard leaks as a heinous crime, while those out of power regard them as a noble act. They seamlessly shift sides as their position in D.C. changes.

(Excerpt) Read more at theintercept.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: flynn
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Hold on, read the whole thing. I excerpted the parts I found interesting. He makes an interesting point, but you have to read the whole article to put it into context.
1 posted on 02/17/2017 11:55:00 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Michael Flynn May Want to Call the ACLU
https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-flynn-may-want-call-aclu


2 posted on 02/17/2017 11:55:23 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

The fascist alt-left considers all felonies as being “justified”. They’re just a bunch of lawless commie thugs.


3 posted on 02/17/2017 11:57:35 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: FlingWingFlyer; vette6387; unkus; flat

Empty cells in Gitmo waiting.


4 posted on 02/17/2017 11:59:22 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Lorianne
The officials leaking this information acted justifiably... because the leaks revealed that a high government official, Gen. Flynn, blatantly lied to the public about a material matter

Although the author makes some good points - he repeats this lie and propaganda several times. NO ONE has any idea what Flynn and the Russian Ambassador spoke about. Flynn did not lie to the public (nothing about it was ever public) and It was NOT illegal for Flynn to have a conservation with the Ambassador. This Logan Act nonsense is simply a red-herring.

5 posted on 02/17/2017 12:06:44 PM PST by PGR88
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If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. If you get caught, motivation is not important. What is important is that too many high level people get by with blatant criminal activity - HRC being one.


6 posted on 02/17/2017 12:06:47 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Where are the Awan Brothers?

Who killed Seth Rich?

Where is Eric Braverman?

Who was spotting the weights for John Ashe?

Who leaked on Flynn?


7 posted on 02/17/2017 12:08:32 PM PST by ptsal
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To: Lorianne
I read the whole thing, and I fail to see what was 'noble' about this leak against Flynn. The transcripts of the conversations were reviewed by the FBI and no criminal wrongdoing was revealed.

Flynn's sin was lying to Pence when asked if he made the calls and what was discussed - presumably because Flynn never suspected that his conversation would be recorded and leaked.

But I fail to see how the greater public good was served by this leak, or by removing Flynn.

Therefore I disagree with the premise of the article.

8 posted on 02/17/2017 12:09:15 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Lorianne

He’s a loon, Chelsea Mannings guy.


9 posted on 02/17/2017 12:09:56 PM PST by major-pelham
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To: Lorianne

The good General will have to say his name is Mohammed Al-Flynn to get help from them.


10 posted on 02/17/2017 12:10:14 PM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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I disagree with it as well, except for the part that I excerpted. He makes a good point there.


11 posted on 02/17/2017 12:11:06 PM PST by Lorianne
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Yes, I agree. Unless/until we see the transcripts we do not know what was discussed.


12 posted on 02/17/2017 12:12:17 PM PST by Lorianne
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I agree. Leaking Flynn’s conversations was vindictive and with malice, as the conversation itself was not illegal.
Leaking it had only one motive,and it wasn’t for the public good.


13 posted on 02/17/2017 12:20:00 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Yo-Yo

Greenwald is schitzophrenic. In one column, he calls out the Deep State and the dangers it poses. In the next, he praises Deep State-sourced leaks that took out a prominent critic of such.


14 posted on 02/17/2017 12:20:20 PM PST by dirtboy
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"But I fail to see how the greater public good was served by this leak, or by removing Flynn."

I figure Trump had second thoughts about Flynn or he would have doubled down on him and said he wasn't going anywhere.

If Flynn didn't tell Pence and/or Trump everything he had been talking about you can bet your bottom dollar he also didn't tell them about everyone he'd been talking to including people in Congress he shouldn't have been letting in on what the administration is thinking and planning.

Draw your own conclusions but you should consider the possibility that there's a lot more to this Flynn situation than the leftist cheerleaders are cheering about and the Trump supporters worrying about Trump caving in to the deep state are worried about.

The leaks are a different matter, though, and whoever leaked should be prosecuted. If anyone was genuinely concerned they should have followed the chain of command and sent the transcripts to Trump asking if he was aware of the conversations.

Since they weren't handled that way it gives Trump more leverage with Congress for reigning in and reducing the size of the band of merry thugs in the Intelligence community.

JMHo

15 posted on 02/17/2017 12:32:12 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Lorianne

ah yeah, the gestapo could also use feloniously selective enforcement. We know most of the collaborators were doing good business on the black market, and the gestapo encouraged that as it made for good informants

He fascist liberal snitches operate on the same debauchery basis


16 posted on 02/17/2017 12:33:31 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Lorianne

Hannity was talking about this a few minutes ago. He talked about how if a U.S. citizen was accidentally being listened to by a U.S. Agency, that the Agency was to drop coverage as soon as it was recognized that a U.S. citizen was being listened to, and that there were strong penalties for violating the rules. He gave some U.S. Government codes, but I didn’t write them down.


17 posted on 02/17/2017 12:43:35 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Yo-Yo

Per Trump, Flynn was fired for not giving all the facts to Pence, and then not being able to produce those details later.


18 posted on 02/17/2017 12:52:45 PM PST by Ingtar (.)
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To: Lorianne

"Mom said those are leaked arriving at the prison. That's why they smell bad. She says not to eat anything that makes yellow snow."
19 posted on 02/17/2017 12:52:55 PM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Lorianne
President Obama’s top national security official, James Clapper, got caught red-handed not only lying to the public but also to Congress — about a domestic surveillance program that courts ruled was illegal. And despite the fact that lying to Congress is a felony, he kept his job until the very last day of the Obama presidency.

Flynn should have likewise kept his job. It's not even clear that he did actually lie to Pence. He would have been a great asset for the Trump administration, and he left a hole that is proving difficult to fill so far.

Greenwald is consistent - he is in favor of government transparency, regardless of who is in power.
20 posted on 02/17/2017 1:07:23 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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