Posted on 02/16/2017 6:14:29 PM PST by markomalley
The SF 86 is the basic application for Federal service. From there, all fed employee applicants have a basic back ground check. Then more as clearance requires. The SF 86 Is not a security questionnaire.
That’s exactly what I thought too. Journalists are truly stupid these days. They didn’t even bother to check what an SF86 was.
“Wiles had resigned on Friday before the results of the test were released. “
The SF86 is not a test. It’s an application. The journalist is referring to this incorrectly. It appears these employees were hired expecting there not to be an issues. But, there were - perhaps even some that you mentioned. But, it wasn’t a test.
I don’t like the credit check system...if a person self discloses a bad credit number prior to hiring and has submitted to a program to repair their credit and to repay their debt, it should not preclude a good job at the white house, especially a loyal to the president sort of worker. Also credit scores are easy to correct once old debts are addressed, often within a year, especially if a person has had a history of making their payments on time over a period of 6 months!
If Habib remembers to take the bell off the collar nobody should know. :)
Under Obama most of his top advisors and staff couldn’t pass a real security check. Jarrett? You’ve got to be kidding. Axelrod, all redded up from Chicago. Van Jones - you’ve got to be kidding. Anita the Maoist Dunn - No Way.
I’m worried the most about Ben Rhodes who is as close to a traitor as I’ve seen yet, despite the competition for that title.
..the goat,....he lies...
On the other hand, I have seen SF86’s where they honestly and openly talked about previous drug use and “passed” the background check.
And if you are completely open and honest about the foreclosure, that will get a “go” also. It is when you “forget” the incident, or slightly change the facts, that it gets you in trouble.
Exactly. I always tell any new person that he/she needs to pretend that this is like going to confession (particularly with an SSBI). It's far better to list everything and be overly scrupulous than to leave something off. There are always mitigating factors for everything except one: attempting to deceive.
True enough.
However, in a way, a person can fail the SF86: by lying when filling it out or "forgetting" an excessive amount of information.
Often, it's not the minor offenses that get people. It's lying about them.
Get caught lying on your background check and right off the bat, you've demonstrated you can't be trusted.
Absolutely.
Some credit dings are medical bills, or other things not related to binge shopping.
My son was arrested for a forgotten speeding ticket.
Let’s get a little grip here...None of us walk on water.
Or...the standard being used by the FBI is extra stringent and inflexible for Trump to undermine his administration.
“The only way you can tell if someone is lying when hooked up to a lie detector is if they tell you they are lying.”
A polygraph test administered by a trained expert can reliably reveal if the subject is being “deceptive” which is arguably different from “lying.” A good friend of mine (now retired) was a branch chief in the CIA’s old Soviet Defense Analysis unit. He was polygraphed every six months, as were others in his branch. My friend claimed that the agency’s internal security people didn’t care much about the substance of your answers to their questions as long as you weren’t being deceptive about your answers.
“Often, it’s not the minor offenses that get people. It’s lying about them.
Get caught lying on your background check and right off the bat, you’ve demonstrated you can’t be trusted.”
Exactly.
Remember when the WH was closed to guest because of the smells in the WH. Some people said it was the smell of pot
Ok, you caught me. Yes, it was I who stole the pen from the office.
I know what it is, I have personally filled one out.
That’s why I say - the information that is used on it - is probably standard for everyone entering the federal gov, unless you are a cashier at the base and even then, one would need that information since they are entering the base.
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