America: Creed vs. Culture

American Thinker ^ | February 15, 2017 | Michael Finch

[Kaslin]

The debate is raging in conservative circles on whether America is a nation based on creed or culture, or as some put it, one based on blood and soil. It is a debate that has raged for decades, one that many conservatives thought was won and over. But as Donald Trump, and the movement behind him, have done with so many assumptions, is to turn the conservative “movement” on its head. All the “intellectuals” are all in a lather.

In fact, America is both a creedal nation as well as a blood and soil nation. It is the merging of these two that gives America is uniqueness. But, what needs to be made clear is that America was not founded as a creedal nation, indeed, the entire concept is absurd. America became, in part, a creedal nation, fully enshrined as one in the 20th Century, but the beginnings of our transfiguration into one was ushered in by Abraham Lincoln’s “New Birth of Freedom.” But that was 80 years after the Founding. One can claim that the seeds of our creedal nation were sewn in the words of Thomas Jefferson into the Declaration, but one is suffering delusion if they think that is what the Founders were intending.

To make any claim of blood and soil or that we are a nation based on a people and culture, one runs the inevitable risk of being called a racist. It is a real shame of our political correct culture is that this slander is no longer one parlayed exclusively by the left, but also by many on the right, as seen in the #NeverTrump movement. But here goes. America was founded by Englishmen.

[Nifster]

The Scots and Irish would suggest they had a hand in it too

[Altura Ct.]

This gets to the crux of the issues we are having today. Too many including some on the right accept that our culture, heritage and race are evil and not worth consideration. The left has been successful to this point in decoupling our ancestors from the ideas that helped to make us who we are. Our nation has always been about more than just the ideas. Our founders knew this and made mention of their posterity. If we don’t recapture our connection we will lose this nation.

[Pelham]

Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America

"This fascinating book is the first volume in a projected cultural history of the United States, from the earliest English settlements to our own time. It is a history of American folkways as they have changed through time, and it argues a thesis about the importance for the United States of having been British in its cultural origins."

Scots Irish are one of the four in this book.

[Pelham]

“This gets to the crux of the issues we are having today. Too many including some on the right accept that our culture, heritage and race are evil and not worth consideration.”

On the right that’s a Neocon conceit, that heritage and race equal something like nazism. Their idea is that “America is a Proposition Nation” and it’s one reason that they love mass immigration, they have no love for or desire to protect America’s historic culture. They hated Buchanan and paleocons for believing that race and culture play a big role in what America is.

[Nifster]

Thanks for the heads up