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Emergency: California’s Oroville Dam Spillway Near Failure, Evacuations Ordered
Breitbart ^ | Feb 12, 2017 | Joel B. Pollak1

Posted on 02/12/2017 4:26:47 PM PST by janetjanet998

Edited on 02/12/2017 9:33:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The California Department of Water Resources issued a sudden evacuation order shortly before 5 p.m. Sunday for residents near the Oroville Dam in northern California, warning that the dam’s emergency spillway would fail in the next 60 minutes.

The Oroville Dam is the highest in the nation.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: butte; california; dam; dwr; evacuation; lakeoroville; liveoroville; moonbeamcanyon; moonbeammadness; oroville; orovilledam; orovillelive; runaway; spillway; sutter; water; yuba
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To: SE Mom

SE Mom wrote:

“M.E.L.
@lee_bowen
5m
Something Going On At #orovilledam — Inaccurate Inflow Readings, Radio Switched To Secure Channel, Radar Anomalies on Weather Radars #MAGA”

Ut oh...

Prayers UP


1,301 posted on 02/17/2017 7:00:41 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SE Mom

The area on the west side of Modesto floods quite a bit. I was there a number of years ago when it flooded.


1,302 posted on 02/17/2017 7:07:25 PM PST by daisy12
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To: WildHighlander57

Flow seems to have bottomed out and is slowly rising at Merrimack, a few miles upstream of the reservoir on the middle fork of Feather River.

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/river/featherStages.html


1,303 posted on 02/17/2017 7:28:14 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: daisy12

http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/AP-Exclusive-Warning-escape-route-lack-by-10939833.php


1,304 posted on 02/17/2017 7:29:33 PM PST by sissyjane
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To: All

from another forum....

I am watching FOX40 and there was a reporter at the bottom of the spillway and there was a lot of dirty water coming over that big rock. First shot it was clear then they cut to another scene, when they came back it was that way. Span of about 15sec in between.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1964182_Biggest-dam-in-the-country-is-going-to-overflow-this-friday—FRESH-EVAC-VIDEO-PG-118—pucker-.html&page=210#i64709389


1,305 posted on 02/17/2017 7:30:49 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: pnz1
Dumb question.. why are they cutting power lines?

There are a couple of reasons to cut the lines.

If they lose the towers (from footing erosion) they may fear pulling others down with them. Specifically if these are anchor or angle towers with adjacent tangents. Taking the load of the towers may also preserve them from toppling.

The other reasons may be to clear the area for both heavy equipment and helicopters.
1,306 posted on 02/17/2017 7:31:51 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer
The other reasons may be to clear the area for both heavy equipment and helicopters.

A large spaceship from a neighboring galaxy is expected to land there later tonight.

1,307 posted on 02/17/2017 7:36:48 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: janetjanet998

could someone post these pics here...live shot of clean water then muddy over big rock at bottom

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1964182_Biggest-dam-in-the-country-is-going-to-overflow-this-friday—FRESH-EVAC-VIDEO-PG-118—pucker-.html&page=210#i64709389


1,308 posted on 02/17/2017 7:39:34 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: Cementjungle
A large spaceship from a neighboring galaxy is expected to land there later tonight.

Hopefully to save all the cows.
1,309 posted on 02/17/2017 7:46:46 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: WildHighlander57

Thanks for the ping!


1,310 posted on 02/17/2017 8:01:28 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: PA Engineer
Hopefully to save all the cows.

Or the Delta Smelt.

1,311 posted on 02/17/2017 8:02:42 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: All

Overnight prayer for all those involved . . .


1,312 posted on 02/17/2017 8:03:41 PM PST by tomkat
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

I think that post-event, if the entire structure survives, they need to develop another way to move water quickly and safely. Well, obviously, they need to fix the main spillway. But they also need to re-think the emergency spillway and perhaps add a gate to it so that they can spill at a modest amount long before water pours over the top.


1,313 posted on 02/17/2017 8:06:11 PM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: janetjanet998
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1,314 posted on 02/17/2017 8:07:06 PM PST by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: Cementjungle
Or the Delta Smelt.

Last time I was at the delta, it smelt pretty fishy.

1,315 posted on 02/17/2017 8:10:55 PM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: PA Engineer

Re: 1306 - which power lines are they fixin’ to cut? I know that there’s a plan to relocate a couple of towers on the line crossing the river right around where the spillway is emptying out. And I think part of that is already removed. If it’s the lines to the switchyard at the dam, then you can kiss future power generation goodbye until they relocate and re-connect the line.

I think that the plan is to open things up for generating again, but I know that there’s some dredging work that needs to be done along the river first.


1,316 posted on 02/17/2017 8:16:50 PM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: janetjanet998

Any digital video production experts here? Looks to me like it might be exposure related... like maybe the sun peeked through and overexposed the water in the clip that looks clean? Even the river as it exits the pic is brown in the one pic, as it is in most pics... but in the clean one, even the river looks clean there, and it shouldn’t as there is still lots of turbulence where the spillway dumps into the river that kicks up sediment.


1,317 posted on 02/17/2017 8:23:35 PM PST by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

you can also see a small muddy stream to the left(on the left of what was the main spillway towards the bottom) in the second shot .

it was raining and cloudy all day


1,318 posted on 02/17/2017 8:35:41 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: PA Engineer

FWIW.

I would hope that someone on this forum has all ready pointed this out. But short of reading every post about the Oroville Dam situation and why this is a very real disaster in the making, I’ll point out a few things.

Water, is a very difficult thing to control.

Water, contrary to popular belief, does in fact flow “uphill”.

The failure of the spillway is just one aspect where the water will migrate, literally up hill, being absorbed and pulled into the earthen dam until gravity takes over. That, combined with rain water on the surface could reach the point were the entire hillside that was designed to hold back the weight of the water in the lake, just lets loose to the forces of gravity.

If the rain forecast is expected to be up stream from the dam itself they may dodge a bullet. If however, they get rain locally, I’m afraid they will experience a mud slide that will be historic.

FWIW


1,319 posted on 02/17/2017 8:39:41 PM PST by Zeneta
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To: Ray76; Jim 0216; maggief; Grampa Dave; Mariner; daisy12; LucyT; janetjanet998
Hi Ray76, "Turbulent, 'non-laminar flow point' causing a notable 'bump' in Upper Main Spillway high volume waterflow" - There has been discussion going on in another engineering site concerning the inlet turbulence to the main spillway (i.e. scouring of the inlet or simple non-laminar inlet flow discussion).
What was missed was in their photo was the discovery of the notable "Turbulent Crest" in the flow some couple of hundred feet behind the concrete weir in the main spillway.
note: "Turbulent Cresting" requires a convergence of directed flow -or- in rivers, usually from a non-laminar base (such as a subsurface body). In addition there is a symmetrical presence of spray water on the far containment wall - which is centered at this focus "cresting point"...
It would be best if this powerful turbulent point (non-laminar flow) is simply from an asymmetric inflow condition (circled). I don't have a peak height/width of this turbulent crest zone at the moment. Note: this shot has been "image sharpened" via processing software for zoom & contrast clarity (compare to full size view in your original post).



1,320 posted on 02/17/2017 8:40:52 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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