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DELINGPOLE: Why Renewables Are Doomed and Fossil Fuels Are the Future
breitbart.com ^ | 2/8/2017 | James Delingpole

Posted on 02/09/2017 7:44:32 AM PST by rktman

We’re on the verge of a new energy revolution. Except it’s the exact opposite of the one the “experts” at places like BP, the International Energy Agency and – ahem – the Guardian are predicting.

For years we’ve been assured by politicians, energy industry specialists and green advocates that renewables such as wind and solar are getting more and more cost-competitive while dirty fossil fuels are so discredited and wrong and evil we’ll soon have to leave them in the ground.

But to believe this you’d have to believe in a world where Donald Trump and Brexit hadn’t happened; where taxpayers were still prepared to bankroll, ad infinitum, the expensive, inefficient, environmentally-damaging produce of favoured crony-capitalists; where no one had access on the internet to articles showing how the whole climate change industry is such a scam.

That world doesn’t exist.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; dellingpole; drillbabydrill; energy; fakescience; fossilfuels; gimmegas; globalwarming; hydrocarbons; maga; opec; palinwasright; petrowinning
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To: KittenClaws

Unwary birds can easily get struck by those widely separated, long blades. The blades of the old Dutch style of windmill would be easier seen by the birds.

Something like a bird guard might be too unwieldy to let the windmill work.


41 posted on 02/09/2017 8:47:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ETL

Or there isn’t any life on those places and this is abiogenic methane.


42 posted on 02/09/2017 8:47:56 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rktman

My opinion is that we should be utilizing the free market for energy. Let everyone try and develop whatever technologies they can bring to market for energy production.

If some folks want to pay more for “renewables”, let them. If companies want to bolster their energy supply with on-site generated power, be it wind/solar/etc, let them...

Eventually, no one energy source will provide what we need. We should be utilizing it all.

That being said, government should not be subsidizing ANYTHING. Not oil, not shale, not coal, and certainly none of the lower energy density technologies like solar, wind, wave, etc...


43 posted on 02/09/2017 8:51:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

An interesting supposed fact about methane is that it is basically unstable and breaks down from sunlight. And so its presence means it is somehow being replenished, possibly by lifeforms.

From Universe Today...

“As methane is broken down by light-induced chemical reactions over a timescale of tens of millions of years, it can’t just be a remnant of the atmosphere present when Titan itself was formed, and it must be replenished quite regularly,” said Tobie.

http://www.universetoday.com/8003/the-source-of-titans-methane/


44 posted on 02/09/2017 8:55:50 AM PST by ETL (Trump admin apparently playing "good cop, bad cop" with thug Putin (see my FR Home page))
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To: Dead Corpse

Government involvement is perpetually prone to mission creep.

The vigilance propounded by the founding fathers is the only counterbalance.

There could be some valid reasons for government to care. Military capabilities rest upon energy capabilities. But that still does not mean the government must commandeer the whole.


45 posted on 02/09/2017 8:56:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ETL

Or some other catalytic reaction?


46 posted on 02/09/2017 8:57:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ETL

OK, that actual article posits that Titan has a lot of methane locked in ice.

If sunlight is eliminating Titan’s methane (how? by turning it into elemental carbon and hydrogen?) there is possibly still enough in its ice to keep a substantial presence of this methane at this time.

And so no big shocking news.


47 posted on 02/09/2017 9:00:59 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Build a big f’n cage around the things.
Levy a $100,000 fine for every eagle killed by the blades...


48 posted on 02/09/2017 9:01:03 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Or there isn’t any life on those places and this is abiogenic methane.

Abstract:

Recently, methane (CH4) of possible abiogenic origin has been reported from many localities within Earth’s crust. However, little is known about the mechanisms of abiogenic methane formation, or about isotopic fractionation during such processes.

Here, a hydrothermally formed nickel-iron alloy was shown to catalyze the otherwise prohibitively slow formation of abiogenic CH4from dissolved bicarbonate ...”

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/285/5430/1055

49 posted on 02/09/2017 9:02:06 AM PST by ETL (Trump admin apparently playing "good cop, bad cop" with thug Putin (see my FR Home page))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Aetophobia.

Aquila is Latin.

50 posted on 02/09/2017 9:02:07 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

I must aeto my words


51 posted on 02/09/2017 9:03:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ETL

Cool


52 posted on 02/09/2017 9:03:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Or there isn’t any life on those places and this is abiogenic methane

Abiogenic petroleum

Abiogenic petroleum origin is a term used to describe a number of different hypotheses which propose that petroleum and natural gas are formed by inorganic means rather than by the decomposition of organisms. The two principal abiogenic petroleum hypotheses, the deep gas hypothesis of Thomas Gold and the deep abiotic petroleum hypothesis, have been scientifically reviewed without confirmation.[1] Scientific opinion on the origin of oil and gas is that all natural oil and gas deposits on Earth are fossil fuels and are, therefore, biogenic. Abiogenesis of small quantities of oil and gas remains a minor area of ongoing research.

Some abiogenic hypotheses have proposed that oil and gas did not originate from fossil deposits, but have instead originated from deep carbon deposits, present since the formation of the Earth.[2] Additionally, it has been suggested that hydrocarbons may have arrived on Earth from solid bodies such as comets and asteroids from the late formation of the Solar System, carrying hydrocarbons with them.[3][4]

Some abiogenic hypotheses gained limited popularity among geologists over the past several centuries. Scientists in the former Soviet Union widely held that significant petroleum deposits could be attributed to abiogenic origin, though this view fell out of favor toward the end of the 20th century because they did not make useful predictions for the discovery of oil deposits.[1] Previous to today, it was generally accepted that abiogenic formation of petroleum has insufficient scientific support and that oil and gas fuels on Earth are formed almost exclusively from organic material.[5]

The abiogenic hypothesis regained support in 2009 when researchers at the Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) in Stockholm reported they believed they had proven that fossils from animals and plants are not necessary for crude oil and natural gas to be generated.[6][7] ...”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin

53 posted on 02/09/2017 9:04:33 AM PST by ETL (Trump admin apparently playing "good cop, bad cop" with thug Putin (see my FR Home page))
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To: SubMareener
And it's a natural part of the environment which explains why the BP oil spill is now forgotten - no permanent damage.

Thanks for reminding folks.

54 posted on 02/09/2017 9:06:42 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Got my DEPLORABLE on)
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To: ETL

There are more things in heaven and on earth than we have dreamed of.

Could be a combination of theories has the correct physical explanation... though ultimately we must acknowledge that all this amazing activity happened because God wanted it to happen. In the end, after all the explanations we can muster, to God must be the glory. This earth seems to have incurred a lot of special attention.


55 posted on 02/09/2017 9:07:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SubMareener
I was explaining the principles abiotic oil to my students 25 years ago.

Wasn't a big hit in the faculty lounge.

56 posted on 02/09/2017 9:11:24 AM PST by skimbell
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To: Aevery_Freeman

In fact, oil spillage off Santa Barbara, CA have increased since they stopped “pumping” because these are artesian wells! The oil will come out. One can either pump and use it, or it just oozes out into the ocean.


57 posted on 02/09/2017 9:12:53 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: skimbell

Truth never is a big hit in the faculty lounge! ;-)


58 posted on 02/09/2017 9:13:52 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Truthoverpower

“a fried from the gecko”

Posting from our cell phone, were we?


59 posted on 02/09/2017 9:16:54 AM PST by beelzepug (Anybody I attack may rest assured it's personal!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Government involvement is perpetually prone to mission creep.

Heartily agree with that sentiment. It is also why I advocate strongly for a limited central government of strictly defined powers.

As for the military, they should be allowed to use whatever they need to in order to accomplish a mission. If they need a nuclear powered flashlight to achieve victory in battle, then so be it. Solar back up for long term battery storage for fleet vehicles? Go for it. However, it shouldn't be a political football for a limited class of "military/industrial complex" types. Heavily audited but privately developed. Keep a lid on fraud and $400 hammers.

60 posted on 02/09/2017 9:27:02 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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