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Liberal groups file lawsuit to block Trump's deregulation order
washingtonexaminer ^

Posted on 02/08/2017 8:55:16 AM PST by hotsteppa

Liberal groups sued President Trump on Wednesday over his "two-for-one" executive order issued last week that requires agencies to kill two existing regulations for every new rule they want to institute.

The environmental and advocacy groups — the Natural Resources Defense Council, Communication Workers of America and Public Citizen — argue that the Trump order is unconstitutional, "irrational" and seeks to scuttle programs meant to protect the public.

"President Trump's order would deny Americans the basic protections they rightly expect," said Rhea Suh, president of the Natural Resources Defense Council. "New efforts to stop pollution don't automatically make old ones unnecessary."

Suh poked at Trump's lack of seriousness in addressing policy, saying "when you make policy by tweet, it yields irrational rules."

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Basically this will be the left's strategy for trying to thwart Trump.

"General Quarters, Battle Stations".

1 posted on 02/08/2017 8:55:17 AM PST by hotsteppa
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To: hotsteppa

Gosh, did they take it to that hack Robart?


2 posted on 02/08/2017 8:56:29 AM PST by SoFloFreeper (Isaiah 25:8)
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To: hotsteppa

Yep, ‘Rats still own the Judiciary. It’s their last hope and weapon.


3 posted on 02/08/2017 8:57:17 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Ok folks, so see what I mean?

Trump blinked, listened to the mouse that roared in Seattle.

Now, we’re in a bad situation, really bad.


4 posted on 02/08/2017 8:57:29 AM PST by Professional
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To: hotsteppa

This demonstrates the problem which “liberals” have with elections.

They only accept the results when their side wins.


5 posted on 02/08/2017 8:57:57 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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So, they hope a court will step in and micromanage every deregulation decision?

Why have any other organ of government than courts?


6 posted on 02/08/2017 8:58:20 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Paladin2

The federal courts essentially became a super-legislative body after 1865. It’s time for Congress to once again bring the federal courts back down to a co-equal branch of government. Jurisdiction stripping is a start. Remember, all powers of the lower federal courts flow from Article I of the Constitution.


7 posted on 02/08/2017 8:59:11 AM PST by WilliamCooper1
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To: hotsteppa

...and seeks to scuttle programs meant to protect the public.


What specific orders does his EO mention. Without specifics, you have no case. And even then, the question is not whether he wants to scuttle good programs. The question is, as is always the case in such situations, is his EO constitutional. i.e. does the constitution grant or protect his right to do it?

After all, how “good” these programs are is a matter of personal opinion. Courts can’t rule on that.


8 posted on 02/08/2017 9:00:05 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: Professional

Now, we’re in a bad situation, really bad.


I think he’s waiting to see how this one actually plays out.

It’s like letting a child make the wrong decision, but before it has “serious” consequences, watch to see if he corrects his actions and learns from it, rather than you just telling him.

The courts are the child in this case. Trump has just chosen not to wield his full power - yet.


9 posted on 02/08/2017 9:02:18 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Even the Scotus has its hacks.

10 posted on 02/08/2017 9:03:03 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Soros’ evil ways...


11 posted on 02/08/2017 9:05:10 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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President Trump efforts will not go anywhere because of the rotten criminal Democrats and their courts. America is finished. The Federal Government will be at a complete stop.
12 posted on 02/08/2017 9:06:11 AM PST by Logical me
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Like the Germans in WWI, the Left has three lines of defense, each representing a branch of government.

First, the legislature, then the executive, and last, the courts.

If they lose consistently at the ballot box, they fall back on the most deeply entrenched defenses in the judiciary.

This is in part why the country moves ever leftwards: we can win at the ballot box and every change an election should bring is undone or thwarted by the courts.

I was listening to part of the questioning on the immigrant ban yesterday, and it seemed quite clear to me that the judges seem to think that their constitutional role is to impose elite opinion about political policies regardless of what the Constitution or the law say.

We are likely to wind up in a situation where every policy change made by Trump is undone by the courts, where an elite cabal (like "Natural Resources Defense Fund") works to craft judicial orders effectively stripping the elected branches of any control over the Federal bureaucracy.

We will wind up with leftist groups effectively controlling Customs and Border Protection, the Department of Education, the EPA, the Interior Department, and parts of the Justice Department through consent decrees.

Acting through the judiciary, they will determine policies as though we never had Republican majorities in Congress and as though Trump never won the election.

13 posted on 02/08/2017 9:07:43 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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In 1993, President Clinton delegated to Vice President Gore the task of “reinventing government,” and part of this entailed reducing regulations. I don’t remember liberal groups complaining about it at the time. During the performance review “...Agencies identified $28 billion a year in reduced regulatory burdens and proposed eliminating 16,000 pages of regulations.”


14 posted on 02/08/2017 9:08:06 AM PST by Texan Tory
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To: Mr. Douglas
Apparently Trump was reading out-loud the applicable law in some venue and then suggested that even lower performing high school students could understand it correctly.

The Ninth Circus Clowns should be wary.

15 posted on 02/08/2017 9:08:26 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: pierrem15

Then we are at a dangerous cross-roads. Will the citizens allow this to happen. That is the question.


16 posted on 02/08/2017 9:12:00 AM PST by hotsteppa
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Maybe we need another policy such that for every dollar the gov spends defending against these suits, ten dollars is cut from social spending.


17 posted on 02/08/2017 9:12:32 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Texan Tory

As of March 1998, the fifth anniversary of the creation of National Performance Review (under Clinton and Gore), Agencies eliminated about 640,000 pages of internal rules, about 16,000 pages of Federal Regulations, and were rewriting 31,000 additional pages into plain language. Again, I didn’t see any complaints from liberal groups at the time.


18 posted on 02/08/2017 9:13:01 AM PST by Texan Tory
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To: hotsteppa

The communists are using leftist judges to thwart the constitution. I support trump telling them to enforce their crap but we have the military.


19 posted on 02/08/2017 9:13:05 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump RULES IMMIGRATION!! Sanctuary crap will STOP or no money. ZERO!!)
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I hope the FIRST thing Sessions does is OPEN A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION OF GEORGE SOROS. He needs to be in prison, with his assets FROZEN/SEIZED.

GET GEORGE SOROS and much of this nonsense stops.

20 posted on 02/08/2017 9:13:10 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (im)
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