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Posted on 02/01/2017 8:08:42 PM PST by Innovative
Some of the drug smuggling tunnels have been almost a 100 feet below the surface. A barrier that deep would be very expensive and unnecessary. Cheaper and easier to use seismic sensors every few thousand feet to triangulate the location of the tunnel and then drill holes along there to pump gas into them to locate the exits, then concrete to fill the tunnel. When they see their efforts are squashed before they even get to the fence they will eventually give up. Part of the standard border patrol equipment should be roving trucks with drilling equipment.
Trump said they are using 90ft concrete slabs as in parking decks.
...and put rails along the top of the fence so remotely-controlled machine guns can 'bullet train' their way to the target and commence firing at any sign of movement.
What bothers me is that the existing fences along the river areas have been set back from the river into the US side, effectively giving up US territory. There is a treaty that says no barriers can divert the flow of the river, so there has never been a barrier right down the middle of the river where it belongs. Ranchers actually have to use locked gates to get their livestock to the river and back in those areas. In other places, no barrier exists at all and the BP has to constantly wave off smugglers in rafts.
It seems like a fence could be driven into the riverbed that does not interfere with the flow of the river. That should be studied and a design decided upon so those ranchers can get full access to their land back and we can avoid fights over taking any private land to build the fence on the riverbank. If a solid concrete barrier is out, then one with openings too small for people but large enough to not impede water should be built.
Yep. Every few hundred feet in both visible and infra red as well as motion activated lights. Preventing them from being shot out might be a problem.
“precast concrete plank.”
Way to go.
I’d like to see a layered barrier in and near urban areas - a fence, a road, a wall and another road - with utility conduit on each side of the wall, and a gate every five miles or so for patrol vehicles.
That would be easy to monitor (cameras, drones and ground sensors) and quick for response.
If you go up 25 or 30 feet with a wall in urban areas, you virtually end all transit.
How about a small percentage of the cancelled payments that are going to be withheld from sanctuary jurisdictions?
If our President asked, I would gladly donate to help pay for building the wall.
Maybe Congress can create a Wall Bond that we can purchase. Tens of millions of Americans would buy them in a heartbeat, and the President could tweet out the daily total sold, just to demoralize the left.
Look-in the? Hell, quad-.50s every mile or so with interlocking fields of fire and 20,000 rounds each. Motion and infra-red activated.
I like it ! Cheaper than having enough fixed mounts. Although it would still require enough that they can reach an area within seconds rather than minutes, and that multiple incursions can be covered at the same time. I don’t think we want to be firing into Mexico, so we have to wait until they are on our side of the fence. Protecting the rail from sabotage might be tough, though. Inexpensive drones carrying grenades might be easier to maintain — grenades with dye and emetics and tear gas.
I believe the border wall will be delayed because of sabotage and subversive entities. The contractors building it will have to be strongly vetted and provided with the best protection available. This is where the the American people will have to pony up some major bucks to get this done!
A standard truck trailer is 48 feet - which would allow about a 35 foot wall set 13 feet into the ground. (clearly overkill, except for the most challenging places). Trailers could carry two stacks of 20 to 25 foot precast planks (up to around 50,000 pounds) that could be set into footings or poured in place foundations.
Two years???
During WWII it took what, six months to commission an aircraft carrier??
“I believe the border wall will be delayed because of sabotage and subversive entities.”
Fund National Guard or Reserve Units from the border states to send some MP, Engineer, or other Combat Arms Units to guard work sites and assist the effort. It would be great training/familiarization with areas they might later be tasked to defend. They could be tasked to make contingency plans based on the new terrain while there.
As long as nothing happens after they get in, no wall will keep them out.
“It seems like a fence could be driven into the riverbed that does not interfere with the flow of the river.”
By treaty, we would need Mexican approval.
We can’t even build on our shore of the river without Mexican approval, as there is a certain setback required, which varies with the terrain, for erosion control and flood management.
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