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Trump 'Disrespects' the Intel Community? What About Obama's Iraq Bug-Out?
Townhall.com ^ | January 19, 2017 | Larry Elder

Posted on 01/19/2017 12:12:48 PM PST by Kaslin

resident Barack Obama and his team still engage in a hissy fit over Donald Trump's questioning Obama's place of birth. To even raise the issue is to "otherwise" the first black President. In short, they argue, it is racist. But to claim that Vladimir Putin put Trump in the White House is nothing more than an obvious observation, right? When the Supreme Court ruled in favor of George W. Bush in 2000, a number of disgruntled Democrats referred to him as "President Select."

Now President-elect Trump is being hammered over his refusal to except the intelligence community's consensus about Russia's alleged role in the election. All of the intel agencies maintain that the Russian government attempted to influence our election, and that Russia preferred Trump over Hillary Clinton.

From the outset, Trump doubted both the argument that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee and that the release of damaging emails was designed to give him an advantage over his rival. Trump, at least before his recent national security briefing, argued that the hacking could've been done by a number of actors, including China and other state and non-state entities. Trump's reluctance to accept the apparent unanimous opinion of our intel agencies probably has more to do with his rejection of the narrative that but for Russia he would not be president.

Russian President Vladimir Putin did not tell Clinton to put a private server in her basement in Chappaqua. Putin did not tell Clinton to delete 30,000 emails while arguing that they were not work related. He did not tell her to destroy evidence that was under subpoena. He did not tell her to falsely assert that she never sent or received classified information, or to falsely claim that she never sent or received information that was stamped classified.

Putin did not tell the DNC to ridicule the name of a black woman or to condescendingly suggest that the way to get Hispanic votes was through "brand loyalty" and "stories" because, after all, "Hispanics are the most responsive to 'story telling.' Brands need to 'speak with us.'" Nor did Putin get Hillary Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta to agree that the Iran deal is "the greatest appeasement since Chamberlain gave Czechoslovakia to Hitler."

But the "Trump doesn't respect the intel community" argument raises another issue. Why doesn't Obama get the same criticism for rejecting his national security and intelligence team's advice on Iraq?

As a candidate, Obama called the Iraq War "dumb." He vowed to withdraw the troops and reposition them in Afghanistan -- the good war. As President, this is exactly what he did. But he did so against the unanimous advice of the major national security voices in his administration.

Then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged him to keep a stay-behind force. So did his secretary of Defense, the head of the CIA, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the United States ambassador to Iraq and his national security adviser.

Army Gen. Ray Odierno, former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said shorty after his retirement that had there been a stabilizing force in Iraq, ISIS could've been dealt with: "I go back to the work we did in 2007 (through) 2010, and we got into a place that was really good. Violence was low, the economy was growing, politics looked like it was heading in the right direction. ... We thought we had it going exactly in the right direction, but now we watch it fall apart. It's frustrating that it's falling apart. ... I think, maybe, if we had stayed a little bit more engaged, I think maybe it might have prevented it."

Think about it. Obama, with barely two years of experience in the Senate, and no foreign-policy experience, rejected the unanimous advice of his mission security team. He pulled completely out of Iraq, a decision that aided and abetted the rise of ISIS.

Trump gets hammered for ignoring the unanimous opinion of the intelligence community; Obama makes one of the most consequential decisions by completely ignoring their advice. And, as usual, Obama gets a pass.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackhussein0bama; legacy; worstpresidentever

1 posted on 01/19/2017 12:12:48 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Why didn’t the Russians hack the popular vote too?


2 posted on 01/19/2017 12:14:41 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Kaslin

Just two year ago, Democrat Senator Feinstein and other Senate Democrats were all calling the CIA a bunch of lying thugs. My how times change.


3 posted on 01/19/2017 12:17:19 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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To: Organic Panic
How did the Ruskies manage to plant all of Hillary's e-mails on Anthony Weiner's home computer?


4 posted on 01/19/2017 12:20:10 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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To: Kaslin

Someone told me this afternoon that Obama ordered a B-1 to flyover Libya?

That can’t be right. Anyone know?


5 posted on 01/19/2017 12:21:02 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Kaslin

Obama and Hillary were super respectful to the VIA when they left CIA agents to die in Benghazi and then lied to their families.


6 posted on 01/19/2017 12:23:48 PM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Kaslin
"President Barack Obama and his team still engage in a hissy fit over Donald Trump's questioning Obama's place of birth. To even raise the issue is to "otherwise" the first black President. In short, they argue, it is racist."<>

Wait until DJT appoint Joe Arapio, Chief, Commander of all U.S. Marshals. Then that, will bring on a REAL, HISSY FIT

7 posted on 01/19/2017 12:24:03 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Kaslin

The intel community is not owed respect, it is intended that they SHOW respect. This is ass-backwards.
What the hell kind of America demands that a president walk in and show proper respect to some executive branch agency?

Bullcrap.


8 posted on 01/19/2017 12:41:14 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: Kaslin

With the mountain of evidence on Hillary Clinton, our intelligence community took no measures to make her face the penalty for her crimes in court.

They allowed her to almost become president of the United States.

Please tell me what Trump did to them that is 1/1000th as bad as that.

Those folks betrayed our nation, not just Trump.


9 posted on 01/19/2017 12:55:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, Clinton, McStain, and Graham, with people like this, who needs enemies?)
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To: Kaslin

President Barack Obama and his team still engage in a hissy fit over Donald Trump’s questioning Obama’s place of birth.
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It does not matter if he was born in Hawaii if his father was a foreign national.
Children of foreign nationals inherit the nationality of their foreign national parent(s).
Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
No other possible citizenship(s).
Only when one cannot be anything else can one be a natural born citizen.

No foreign birth.
No foreign parent(s)
No foreign citizenship(s)
No foreign influence on the Presidency is what John Jay stated in a letter to George Washington as the reason for insisting on a natural born citizen.

Obama told us he was born a British subject.

Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?


10 posted on 01/19/2017 1:02:02 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: Kaslin

Trump has only and will only dis the Obamaitors in what is left of our intel communities.

The CIA may not be salvageable.

The NSA under Admiral Rogers will be okay. Let Admiral Mike bring the NSA back to what it has done for decades, monitoring the rest of the world to see who is wanting to hurt us.

Fire most of the top FBI agents and run a lie detector test on those left to see what damage they might have done to good Americans. Then, let their objective be to find and monitor our inside enemies so they don’t kill/harm us.


11 posted on 01/19/2017 1:20:18 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The deadliest Islamic terror cell America has ever faced is leaving office, 20 Jan 2017!!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
It does not matter if he was born in Hawaii if his father was a foreign national. Children of foreign nationals inherit the nationality of their foreign national parent(s).

Not if the American parent, or parents register the birth of the baby with the American Consulate in the country the baby was born. Obviously that was something 0bama's father did not do. Now the question is was there even an American Consulate?

12 posted on 01/19/2017 1:21:22 PM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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