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Facebook’s Zuckerberg Sues Hundreds to Get Title for 700-Acre Compound
Fortune.com ^ | 19 Jan 2017 | Jeff John Roberts

Posted on 01/19/2017 11:48:25 AM PST by 11th_VA

Facebook's CEO is ruffling feathers in Hawaii with a series of lawsuits that seek to stamp out the claims of locals residents who still have an ownership right in a large tract of land he bought on the island of Kauai.

Mark Zuckerberg purchased the 700-acre parcel of rural beachfront property in 2014, but, owing to the quirks of traditional Hawaii culture and property law, he technically shares the title with hundreds of other people in the state. As the Honolulu Star Advertiser explains, the Kuleana Act of 1850 granted land ownership rights to native Hawaiians—rights that can descend to subsequent generations without the formal transfer of deeds or titles.

The upshot is that, even though none of these descendants are living on the 700 acre Kauai track, hundreds of them could still claim a right to enjoy parts of the land. In response, three companies controlled by Zuckerberg filed eight so-called "quiet title" lawsuits to extinguish those claims.

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To: marktwain

It’s a responsible move to extinguish a cultural tie to the land and I’ve been in Hawaii a lot. The indigenous ties to the land are spiritual.


21 posted on 01/19/2017 12:17:12 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: marktwain

Sorry, I misplaced a question mark.

It’s a responsible move to extinguish a cultural tie to the land?


22 posted on 01/19/2017 12:19:02 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: 11th_VA

I know exactly where that property is and had a friend living on one of the houses about 5 years ago. There is a great beach just a quick hike. Because of Hawaiian law he CAN NOT block the beach. He’s going to see just how stubborn Kauains can be. A bunch of surfers blocked the Super-Ferry. Some natives have blocked nearly all development on the island. They aren’t going to care one whit about Zucks privacy.


23 posted on 01/19/2017 12:28:45 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: OpusatFR

It’s a responsible move to extinguish a cultural tie to the land?


I am not even sure what you mean by that.

How does one extinguish a spiritual tie?

What is a cultural tie to the land, when people are not living there or do not even know they own it?

Multiple, contested titles, make for lots of courtroom proceedings.

There does not appear to be any question that Zuckerberg purchased the land legally from a willing seller/sellers.

I have seen thousands and thousands of acres lie fallow because the titles are unclear.


24 posted on 01/19/2017 12:29:43 PM PST by marktwain
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To: 11th_VA
Interesting concept.

How did he buy the land without clearing it with the ancestral owners first? Did these "ancestral owners" get any proceeds from the sale?

How do you define an "ancestral owner"? Anyone of Hawaiian ancestry, or must they have lived on this particular island? For how long?

Doesn't matter, 'cause I saw an endangered snail crawling on the beach...

25 posted on 01/19/2017 12:39:49 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: OpusatFR

Natives could use these “Cultural Ties” to hold up clear title to the land. I bet that happens and that is why Zuckerberg made this move.


26 posted on 01/19/2017 12:40:57 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: marktwain

But extremely hypocritical.


27 posted on 01/19/2017 12:44:07 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 11th_VA

I think this guy has a death wish.


28 posted on 01/19/2017 12:48:02 PM PST by Renegade
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To: 11th_VA

I think this guy has a death wish.


29 posted on 01/19/2017 12:48:11 PM PST by Renegade
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To: 11th_VA

The Descendants should SUE the Government and DEMAND They immediately SEIZE his Property using the Kelo Decision as their Authority . Promise to make it a park or some nature retreat.


30 posted on 01/19/2017 12:48:16 PM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: 11th_VA

He’s burnishing his Democrat credentials. You have to become a little Nero first.


31 posted on 01/19/2017 12:48:39 PM PST by I still care (The left's goal never was tolerance. It always was facism.)
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To: 11th_VA

I think Zuck has a death wish!


32 posted on 01/19/2017 12:49:56 PM PST by Renegade
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To: 11th_VA

Eminent Facebook.


33 posted on 01/19/2017 12:50:05 PM PST by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Or after the supreme court is filled, Zuckerberg will be caught in some illegality involving this that is seldom enforced. After his initial incarceration, his appeal will be fast tracked to the supreme court (bypassing any opportunity to be out on bail until everything goes away) and he will actually sit in a jail cell for a couple of years.

While he sits in some run down local clink, his rivals will cannibalize his business and expose every misdeed he was hiding through his money.

When he gets out about the time Trump's first term ends he will be bitter and angry...but to toxic to be a candidate.

Maybe he should give up on the idea of a huge private compound in Hawaii.

34 posted on 01/19/2017 1:02:33 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: 11th_VA
"I've heard he's a potential Democrat Candidate ... "

If Zuckerberg's politics were different, I could imagine the following headline: "Trump supporter Zuckerberg sues to remove native Hawaiians from ancestral lands."
35 posted on 01/19/2017 1:17:36 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: 11th_VA

Nice. I mean, they always moralize us about giving money to refugees and these poor Indians, and here they come with all their donated money to sue said Indians (Hawaiians) out of oblivion.


36 posted on 01/19/2017 1:25:16 PM PST by lavaroise (s)
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To: deadrock

How do all these Indians and Hawaians voting for Democrat Eminent Domain now like it, eh...

Democrats and Liberals are the evil party of Andrew Jackson and the trail of tears... let us never forget that it was not America BUT DEMONCRAPS! who need to pay reparations.


37 posted on 01/19/2017 1:26:34 PM PST by lavaroise (s)
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To: 11th_VA

He has to visit , to go in and out of this place . Locals can be pretty imaginative , esp. these days , in dealing with those that mess with ‘sovereign’ rights .
In this case ; I wish them all the luck .

It’s time for these uber rich cyber billionaires to understand , you need to earn what you own . And coming up with a social media platform does not constitute ‘earning ‘ land right over 100’s of local residents . Screw his $$$

He can line his imu with it


38 posted on 01/19/2017 1:32:15 PM PST by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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To: GOPJ

He’s rich and the laws do not apply to him


39 posted on 01/19/2017 1:51:01 PM PST by dirtymac
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To: 11th_VA

Pele (volcano goddess) is not going to like him.

Perhaps she will pay him a visit and destroy his compound.


40 posted on 01/19/2017 2:01:50 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (If you choose not to deal with reality, reality will deal with you - and not on your terms)
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