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Trump signals he's softening on immigration as he says he's 'working on a plan' that will make DREA
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4132578/Trump-says-s-working-plan-accommodate-DREAMers.html ^

Posted on 01/19/2017 12:59:57 AM PST by kelly4c

It wouldn't allow the full title. Anyways, the subtitle: "He called the plight of children who were brought into the country illegally by their relatives 'a very tough situation' and suggested that he's thinking about letting them stay."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Florida; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; fake; fakenews; hoax; illegals; nevertrump; softening
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To: kelly4c

We’ll see -he’s got the right people around him to help ‘educate’ him on the real threat - which is demographics. I’ll give him enough room to breathe for now.


81 posted on 01/19/2017 5:08:34 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: kelly4c

I am hugely and bigleague against this, but maybe, just maybe he sees it as a way to win support of more hispanics over to republican/conservative based things like doing it in a way that they have to truly integrate into American constitutional ways in future instead of voting against America/democrat?


82 posted on 01/19/2017 5:11:29 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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We don’t know how many of these children are here, and are we talking about someone who’s 26 or someone who’s 9 and has been here for 4 years? They are just using this so nothing will be done on deportations.


83 posted on 01/19/2017 5:20:47 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: kelly4c
The first change: end the horrible 'born here -- citizen here' insanity.

The second change: 'illegals can never be citizens'... If they commit voter fraud by attempting to vote they'll be deported.

Children born to illegals are not citizens either. If illegals object they must leave and go back to their home countries.

84 posted on 01/19/2017 5:22:19 AM PST by GOPJ ("Reporters honored MLK by spreading hate & lies. News at 11." - Freeper FreedomGuru)
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To: kelly4c

I’d like Trump to begin by kicking every child who gets as low as a speeding ticket out of the country. Kicking 11 million or whatever number is not exactly easy, but if we use law enforcement and kick illegals out as they break a law is the best way.
Also, I’d like to stop ALL bennies for any illegal in the country. If organizations (not federal) want to help them fine but that is on them. I think once the bennies are cut off, a good many will volunteer to leave. It also will stop those coming here.

There are ways to get rid of illegals that doesn’t include rounding them up.


85 posted on 01/19/2017 5:23:54 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: kelly4c

DEAL BREAKER.

he turns?

I’ll turn on him.


86 posted on 01/19/2017 5:29:55 AM PST by gaijin
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To: GOPJ

Absolutely - get rid of the “anchor baby” concept entirely.

And deport the parents and their offspring.


87 posted on 01/19/2017 5:30:29 AM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: meyer
There's plenty of Hispanic hellholes South of the Border - we don't need that corrupt mentality here.

If there were dozens of countries like the United States in the Western Hemisphere and ONLY ONE Hispanic - brown - country - then it would make sense.

But every country South of the United States is Hispanic, poor, and run by thugs. Why on earth do liberals want one more Hispanic hellhole... aren't there enough now? They out number us 20 to 1. Do they have to have it all?

Hispanic thuggy countries are the norm in the Western hemisphere. When is enough enough?

Do white liberal elites really need one more hellhole with large numbers of poor propping up a few 'elites'? That's the South American, Mexican, etc. pattern and WE DON'T WANT IT - WE DON'T NEED IT - IT'S NOT OUR WAY. United States white liberal elites love the thug style - lots of poor dependent peasants propping up 'elites'... But why would everyday Americans ever buy into that horror? Or allow it to happen here

Look at the democrats who have chosen NOT to celebrate our peaceful transfer of power... look at their faces and heritage. Most of them are ancestrally from hellhole countries run by thugs. They don't come from countries that have a peaceful transfer of power... They are bringing their totalitarian thug cultures with them. They ARE the liberal elites who want to rule over everyday citizens.

88 posted on 01/19/2017 5:55:27 AM PST by GOPJ ("Reporters honored MLK by spreading hate & lies. News at 11." - Freeper FreedomGuru)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Easy Hoss, I read her comment as saying Trump will clarify that this is distorting his position as he has on a couple of other things they have tried to distort about him.
Daily Mail is a globalist rag for sure.

I’m fairly certain from her history she is not a troll.


89 posted on 01/19/2017 6:02:43 AM PST by Romans Nine
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To: Romans Nine

Whoahhhh Wilbur, you don’t dictate my opinion.


90 posted on 01/19/2017 6:06:45 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Read Write Repeat

Yep. Me too. Last summer we had a DREAMer war that went on all summer. One was shot every single day.


91 posted on 01/19/2017 7:11:24 AM PST by sheana
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To: blackberry1

They don’t need votes. The laws are already in place. Just need an ICE and Border Patrol that have been told to do their jobs.


92 posted on 01/19/2017 7:15:15 AM PST by sheana
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To: gaijin

Has been my deal breaker with any politician for years. I’m not gonna change now. I live in a city that was once nice until we were invaded. I’ve seen what they do to a place.


93 posted on 01/19/2017 7:18:33 AM PST by sheana
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To: kelly4c

I hate that I’m saying this but the dreamers will likely have to be legalized. Whether you like it or not they have a sympathetic argument. So 800’000 stay and 19 million are still fair game for deportation. Not a bad trade off.


94 posted on 01/19/2017 8:02:27 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: meyer; M. Thatcher; stockpirate; SharpRightTurn; 9YearLurker; ncalburt; JonPreston; DoodleDawg; ...
Yes, you're right. We must end the “anchor baby” abomination.

Democrats have decided the way to 'win' is demographic: turn the US into a South American type hellhole (small number of "elites" propped up by a massive underclass with NO middle-class to speak of) with people willing will vote democrat for 'benefits'.

Think "Venezuela"

White liberal elites are too lazy to 'convince' American citizens of their positions -we're on to their scams - so they'll import third world types with a peasant mentality designed to overwhelm our natural population.

Thuggy 'elites' are doing the same thing in Germany and France - - the only difference is the forced injection of a different choice of hellhole population. The idea is to break the back of Western Civilization - and to turn the whole world into a third world hellhole with a small band of elites at the top and large numbers of people who will no longer have any place to dream of escaping to...

95 posted on 01/19/2017 8:25:35 AM PST by GOPJ ("Reporters honored MLK by spreading hate & lies. News at 11." - Freeper FreedomGuru)
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To: Wonder Warthog

If a man robs a bank and uses the money to buy a house for his kids, do the kids get to keep the house and live in it?


96 posted on 01/19/2017 8:34:30 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: kelly4c

What laws can I, as a LAWFUL Citizen, break and skip punishment? Would it matter the crime(s) if I could prove ‘hardship’? If I was doing so ‘for the children’?

At the LEAST, non-Citizens shouldn’t be getting ANY form of taxpayer funding\assistance (IMO, welfare of any\all types should be abolished as unconstitutional).

Prosecute any\all that flout the law (criminal, citizen, elected); reciprocity should be in effect.

THEN build the wall, if needed. But, I suspect, the cutting of the goodies\draw will be enough to drive out 90% of the problem.


97 posted on 01/19/2017 8:58:59 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: nopardons

Haven’t you learned anything from the lying media yet??
Unless and until you hear Trump say it, don’t believe it.


98 posted on 01/19/2017 10:07:15 AM PST by snowsprite (Snowsprite)
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To: central_va
"Children go back to Mexico and when the turn 18 they get a one time shot a citizenship including a real ssn and registering for the draft."

I think I would offer the children the choice of whether to stay or go, possibly with an age bracket. Those younger than teen-age go, per your suggestion. Teen-age or older could choose to stay, with a responsible citizen sponsor/foster parent, and then are eligible to your suggestion above.

My reasoning here is that the younger kids, if not bilingual, can probably make the language "switch" easily. The teens would likely have great difficulty.

99 posted on 01/19/2017 10:22:02 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"If a man robs a bank and uses the money to buy a house for his kids, do the kids get to keep the house and live in it?"

Don't be silly. NOT analogous.

100 posted on 01/19/2017 10:23:07 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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