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‘You Focus on the Good’: Women Who Voted for Trump, in Their Own Words
New York Times ^ | 01/14/2017 | SUSAN CHIRA

Posted on 01/14/2017 5:22:19 AM PST by jhouston

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To: trebb

I think folks sometimes tend to canonize what to them is the ordinary, not realizing that even what they are calling the ordinary is extraordinary. The ark of Noah would be a special case — it does not fit our ordinary expectations, but for the task it was purposed to by the Lord, it would not need to. Some groups, that we roughly sometimes call YEC (young earth creationists) actually have an entire interrelated thesis which doesn’t even need to be true to account for what we see in the scriptures. But as Job was admonished, who was present to watch the creation events. Humility before it is the only fitting attitude. Once humble, then God will fill in more details in a logical fashion. If we go proud, and some folks like Ken Ham have, we get pushed off course by the devil’s strawman arguments.


61 posted on 01/14/2017 11:27:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: trebb

Screwtape Letters was a fantasization of the affairs of hell. Its attraction would be in the intrigue. If it looks to you like Numbers then maybe you aren’t of a particular bent to appreciate it.

This might not be the most logical Lewis since it is a fantasy genre and its truths, at best, are metaphorical.

Mere Christianity is an attempt to argue towards Christianity, but it can’t foresee every proposed counter argument. The modern apologist begins where C. S. Lewis left off.


62 posted on 01/14/2017 11:32:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Agree - when the Phrase "I Am" hit me to the core, the rest all fell into place. I love that you mentioned Job - one of the things it taught me was how much God valued marriage - his shrew of a wife was the only thing God didn't let Satan take from him.

Another favorite is the story of Jonah - I use it when folks claim to hope that someone shouldn't be saved - God tells us it isn't our decision to make and that He will go to great lengths to let us know we should do the same to carry His Word - no matter what we think of the recipients or their "worthiness" of that chance at Salvation.

I'm not one to remember a lot of specific passages, but I have the overall message ingrained deep inside - as He told us would happen in Jeremiah - something that a lot of folks in certain religions tend to ignore as it doesn't fit with some of their religion's interpretation of things. What better statement of hope and what was to come in His New Covenant from Him than: "I will forgive their wickedness and recognize their sins no more"....

So many still think that they need to prove themselves worthy (and by example, others unworthy) by thinking they actually live lives that are free of sinfulness rather than having Him stop recognizing their sins because they have all been paid for.

63 posted on 01/14/2017 11:42:17 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thanks - maybe I’ll give the Letters another try.


64 posted on 01/14/2017 11:43:23 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Jesus talked about whitewashed tombs, which was not just something that was physically done, but was a metaphor for what lost man tries to do.

I’ve witnessed of Christ to some Hindus, who at one level are easier to reach because they will worship almost anything. Getting them going with Jesus needs little more than a robust witness of blessings. The conventional means would be to teach them the bible and church way of looking at things. I’ve filled them in little by little about this kind of thing after they’ve seen what Jesus can do when worshiped.

But Jesus is a karma eraser. This is the most fantastic thing to that worldview. I got called a champ by one Hindu who knew me, before I understood why. Hell heavy or hell lite is still hell, and Jesus delivers from it all.


65 posted on 01/14/2017 12:06:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: trebb

I hope Mrs. Job got a clue from seeing the restoration of her husbands fortunes. Some stories don’t tell us all we would wish to know. I think from the overall context, she got some kind of clue, or she would have been hell on earth for Job and not a fitting part of restored fortunes. She’d be forever berating him about it. But again we have more egalitarian expectations today. In that era prior to the revelation of Christ as explicit savior to the point of undertaking an incarnation, everything centering around Job would make perfect sense. The husband firmly led the family. There wasn’t what we would call Christ consciousness then making a more diffuse social model viable.

God is the forever self-existent, the only One with the true license to say “I am.” I’ve seen it attempted in a skeptical or secular context, in a song that goes “Life isn’t worth a damn, until you can say ‘I am what I am.’” But this collapses too. The singer here should correctly say “I am what the ‘I am’ most positively made me to be.” Or as the bible puts it, “I am what I am by the grace of God.” But we’d have to redo the music to fit that in... ah, the trials of being an artist.


66 posted on 01/14/2017 12:19:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
But Jesus is a karma eraser. This is the most fantastic thing to that worldview. I got called a champ by one Hindu who knew me, before I understood why. Hell heavy or hell lite is still hell, and Jesus delivers from it all.

Great descriptor for Jesus - wish all Christians understood it.

67 posted on 01/15/2017 3:12:36 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The singer here should correctly say “I am what the ‘I am’ most positively made me to be.” Or as the bible puts it, “I am what I am by the grace of God.” But we’d have to redo the music to fit that in... ah, the trials of being an artist.

Yes. I've been known to say that while I am in no way perfect except for how Christ made me worthy, I am also a perfect Bob Blaze - I'm as He made me and I'm comfortable in my own skin despite full knowledge of who and what I am. That's the gift of Grace from a truly loving God.

68 posted on 01/15/2017 3:16:30 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: miss marmelstein

LOL!!! Isn’t that the truth!!


69 posted on 01/16/2017 5:42:59 PM PST by Ladysmith (You can't make everyone happy. You are not pizza.)
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A tiny sampling of our group who are working to turn Virginia red for President Trump/Pence in 2020!

70 posted on 01/16/2017 5:49:00 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: showme_the_Glory
Thousands of women protesting how millions of women voted.

Post of the day!

Btw, the pro-life March for Life 2017 will take place a week from tomorrow. Many hundreds of thousands of men and women have attended this march for many years. The MSM barely cover it, and if they do, they grossly underestimate its attendance.

71 posted on 01/19/2017 9:53:43 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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