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To: JeepersFreepers
Someone has to pay

Says who? And don't give me any BS about a "compassionate society." I'm at my compassion limit with all the Welfare and other transfer payments that I support.

2 posted on 01/13/2017 12:02:25 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Totally correct. Nobody is entitled to health care, no matter what these libs think


8 posted on 01/13/2017 12:05:43 PM PST by Navin Johnson
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

The political reality is that you will never get enough public support to allow insurance companies to go back to denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

We have to live in a world of political realities and not an “ideal plane”. And the political realities are that this is DOA with voting public.


9 posted on 01/13/2017 12:07:18 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Agreed.

The left always tries to conflate society with the government.

Government is not so society


11 posted on 01/13/2017 12:07:47 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Someone has to pay
Says who? And don’t give me any BS about a “compassionate society.” I’m at my compassion limit with all the Welfare and other transfer payments that I support.


Exactly. We now have “gofundme” type stuff.

It’s interesting that when we were a “christain” nation, people were not afraid to die. Well, there is that, but also, how expensive IS morphene, anyway?

I’m 63 with no insurance. I trust the Lord to provide until the day I die. He has been an EXCELLENT health provider!


12 posted on 01/13/2017 12:08:19 PM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Welfare to the receiver == gimme freeshqt i am entitled to

Welfare to the supplier == forced government confiscation of money you earned/invested

Government takes when you earn, they dont give you any back when you lose. But they still take from you, even then.


14 posted on 01/13/2017 12:10:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard; JeepersFreepers
The most appalling way to look at that is 50% of the population only uses 3% of the expense of health care! When everyone is insured for everything, that 50% will gradually give up being responsible for their medical decisions, and they'll increase their expenses, too. That's an unaffordable spiral, We're already seeing some of that with the numbers of seniors who get hips and knees replaced, rather than live with limitations. Another aspect we're seeing is the heroin epidemic caused to a great degree by getting hooked on prescription meds.

Back in a college Philosophy class in the 1960s, one of our classes was an ethical discussion about this. What happens when there are expensive cures for diseases, but not the means to provide them for everyone? If I remember, the conclusion was that for every high-priced medical solution, there had to be a low cost option available.

What I would favor is a policy that covered catastrophic situations and diseases....nothing else. For those who chose that option and nothing else (or not even that), there should be first-aid/self-healing clinics for those who choose that. I don't see how else the problem can be solved.

20 posted on 01/13/2017 12:14:13 PM PST by grania
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before gov’t meddling in health care - 5% of gdp and best quality on earth

after 50 years of gov’t meddling - 18% of GDP and worst quality in first world

the solution isn’t more gov’t meddling


30 posted on 01/13/2017 12:26:31 PM PST by vooch
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

limit with all the Welfare and other transfer payments that I support.

My husband had a motorcyle accident before we met.

They told him, if you did not have a job, we could help you but you work.

The bill collectors called while he was still healing(1 year recovery)which hurt too!

But he paid it all, for what insurance did not cover.

Silly us workers.


50 posted on 01/13/2017 1:05:30 PM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

We’re all martyrs now.
I have ‘insurance’ with which I cannot afford to get sick.
During a Town Hall Meeting, Hillary Clinton told the woman in my same situation, to ‘keep shopping’. Doesn’t work!


57 posted on 01/13/2017 1:34:56 PM PST by griswold3
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

The people getting sick now already did pay... their money was stolen from social security and replaced with “government bonds / IOUs”. Who buys those bonds? Foreign countries like China and South American nations who rape us on trade deals in return... also, Insurance companies buy those bonds in exchange for forcing everyone to buy insurance that we can’t use. See how they are all saying, “If we go down, you go down...”?

The game is almost up...they are trying to get rid of cash so they can enforce negative interest rates on a global scale... but that bubble might burst...then what?

WWW III / currency reset / things move quickly then.


67 posted on 01/13/2017 2:51:47 PM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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