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Remedy for Russian meddling should be new election (LOL Alert)
The Hill ^ | 01/11/17 02:20 PM EST | Chris Edelson

Posted on 01/11/2017 3:55:43 PM PST by keat

It sounds like a story lifted from the pages of a spy novel. U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Russian dictator Vladimir Putin led a cyberespionage scheme designed to help Donald Trump win the presidential election.

What's even worse is that Putin's plan worked and Trump now seems to be siding with Russia against U.S. intelligence agencies. It's hard to know how to respond to this because it is unprecedented. But it is essential to take whatever action is necessary to make this right, as difficult, complicated and even uncomfortable as that may be.

The hard reality is that the presidential election we just held was delegitimized by foreign interference. This is not some conspiracy theory or fevered fantasy; it is a conclusion that flows directly from the unanimous assessments of the U.S. intelligence community.

It would be an enormous mistake to ignore this, as Trump has suggested we should.

In fact, if we can confirm the intelligence report's conclusion that Putin intervened with the goal of electing Trump, there must be a new election in the United States. This sounds extraordinary, and of course it is. But it can be done, and indeed must be done in order to uphold the fundamental democratic principle of free and fair elections, a principle undermined by the Russian efforts.

How would this take place? The first step should be to conduct further investigations aimed at determining whether the intelligence agencies' conclusions are correct. It is dangerous for Trump to suggest, without a shred of evidence, that the intelligence report is wrong. But it would also be a mistake to accept the intelligence report without asking questions and getting more information.

Last week, the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee chaired by Sen. John McCain(R-Bellevue) began holding hearings about Russian interference in the election. The McCain hearings are a good start, but more action is needed, including most importantly the establishment of an independent, nonpartisan body along the lines of the 9/11 commission.

If such a commission confirmed the intelligence conclusions (while also exploring other questions), it would then seek to determine whether Russian interference affected the election outcome and gave Trump a victory.

Trump is desperately insisting that his election was legitimate, including by making misleading statements about the intelligence report's conclusions. After receiving a briefing last week, Trump tweeted that "Intelligence stated very strongly there was absolutely no evidence that hacking affected the election results. Voting machines not touched!"

This is dangerously deceptive. U.S. intelligence concluded that Russian actions did not affect vote counting, but that wasn't the point. Russia's goal was what the intelligence report describes as "influence efforts."

This included the use of propaganda to praise Trump and denigrate Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton

, and, most insidiously, disseminating stolen data obtained through Russian cyberespionage. This included the content of emails stolen from the accounts of Democratic party officials and disseminated by Wikileaks.

Trump himself certainly believed the information spread by Wikileaks was helpful to his election chances; he talked about it incessantly on the campaign trail. In the last month of the election alone, Trump mentioned WikiLeaks 164 times. In an election decided by fewer than 100,000 votes in three states, it's quite likely that Russia's efforts did make a difference

Extensive news coverage often focused on WikiLeaks, which at the very least made it harder for Clinton to advance her own message, and at worst created confusion for voters and journalists who incorrectly thought the WikiLeaks story was connected to an FBI investigation of Clinton’s email server. Julian Assange timed the release of information to inflict maximum political damage on Clinton and the leaked emails succeeded in sowing discord among Democrats and causing tangible harm to the Clinton campaign.

It's not the job of U.S. intelligence agencies to determine whether Russian hacking affected the US election results, and the intelligence report released last week did not resolve this. But an independent commission can and must answer this question.

If it is determined that Russian efforts did indeed put Trump over the top in an incredibly close election, then the next step would be to pass a constitutional amendment requiring a one-time special election to be held as soon as possible.

This would be far from easy, but it is possible with the support of a two-thirds majority in each chamber of Congress, followed with ratification by three-fourths of state legislatures. All of this is unlikely, to say the least — especially in light of the disappointing reality that most Republicans in Congress seem to be willing to let Russian election sabotage slide.

But it is well worth trying, as the alternative would be to accept the results of an election tainted by foreign interference. The choice should be clear: Let's see if elected officials are courageous enough and patriotic enough to take whatever action is needed to set this right.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; lol; russianhacking; trump
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To: keat

The dims spent the better part of 50 years trying to turn the country over to the Russians, why are they upset now?


21 posted on 01/11/2017 4:17:26 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: JBW1949

The American political elite are truly, in every sense, stark raving mad.

They need to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.


22 posted on 01/11/2017 4:18:51 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast ("Now it's up to the American people to deliver justice")
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To: keat

Emails written by Clintoonie, Podesta and their “crew” are “propaganda”? This clown needs to see a shrink right away. He needs some kind of “remedy” himself.


23 posted on 01/11/2017 4:19:12 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: keat

So if Colonel Travis had left the Alamo door unlocked and Santa Anna’s troops had waltzed in and captured the fort, the Texicans would have gotten a do-over?

Who knew?


24 posted on 01/11/2017 4:19:31 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: keat

Mexico - Russia = Mexico


25 posted on 01/11/2017 4:20:53 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Just curious, have they ever produced any EVIDENCE that ‘Russia’ hacked Podesta? I thought it was one guy, that Guccifer guy.


26 posted on 01/11/2017 4:20:53 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: keat

There is no provision in the Constitution for a “Presidential election”.

The States elect the President by choosing electors. The fact that all 50 States have chosen to use idiots voting to make their choices is true, but has no Constitutional authority.


27 posted on 01/11/2017 4:21:13 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: All

If they truly believe the info on Hillary cost her the election, there’s no way a do over would work. By not contesting the info, they admit it’s factual. So those who voted against her would vote against her again.


28 posted on 01/11/2017 4:21:25 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'm trying to be more tolerant of everyone. Including ignorant people.)
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To: keat

Did ‘Russoa’ actually praise Trump? What did they say?


29 posted on 01/11/2017 4:22:03 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: keat
Chris Edelson is an assistant professor of government in American University's School of Public Affairs.

Is Chris Edelson a credulous fool, or is Chris Edelson merely a partisan hack and an idiot?

They sure don't make 'assistant professors' like they used to...

30 posted on 01/11/2017 4:22:27 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: keat

You want a new election, fine. Beware, it won’t be conducted with ballots.


31 posted on 01/11/2017 4:22:37 PM PST by dware (I love waking up in a world with President-elect Trump!)
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To: originalbuckeye

children could hack “password”


32 posted on 01/11/2017 4:22:44 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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To: keat

This will gain about a thimble’s full of steam.... Well, not even that much.


33 posted on 01/11/2017 4:23:28 PM PST by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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To: Sam Gamgee
I have changed my tune as in I don’t see Clapper and the CIA as false, as it does appear they were correct about the Russian hacking.

What facts are you using to come to your conclusion that the Russians were the ones responsible for the Podesta and DNC hackings?
34 posted on 01/11/2017 4:25:21 PM PST by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

They have had so much their own way in DC for so long with little to no interference from the real American people that they are scared out of their minds that the luxuries are going away and they may have to WORK...

Scares the hell outta them....


35 posted on 01/11/2017 4:26:25 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: keat
Remedy for Russian meddling should be new election

Dear Chris Edelson,

I agree.

See you in 2020!

Love,

Laz.

36 posted on 01/11/2017 4:29:09 PM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP LIED TO ME!!!! ....He said I'd get sick of winning.... AND I'M NOT SICK OF WINNING YET!!!!)
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To: Bullish

I got it first hand that the Russians wanted Trump to win. But the way they went about it is not what it seems. Let me explain.

The Russians feared that Bernie Sanders would win the election against any Republican candidate. So behind the scenes they worked with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the DNC to fix it so Hillary wins the nomination. Since they were afraid that Bernie could overcome numerical odds and win the nomination against Hillary, they bought off 800+ delegates with the promise they will get a full expense paid trip to NY to see Hillary’s coronation as the next President of the United States.

When Bernie Sanders found out about this he claimed that the nomination was rigged, but Hillary’s media played it as Bernie being well, Bernie.

And that’s how Donald Trump won the election.


37 posted on 01/11/2017 4:32:26 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (CNN - The Chicken Noodle Network)
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To: keat

“Oh please, oh please....Please let’s do the election all over so the best, the most qualified, the smartest, and most of all, the obly one with the right parts between her legs, Hillary Clinton, will finally become our legitimate President. Let’s elect her so millions of illegal refugees and foreign invaders can swarm across our borders. Let’s elect her so our relations with other countries can deteriorate even further. Let’s elect her so our sovereignty can finally be crushed and our military reduced to a laughingstock. Let’s elect her so that millions of people can still get tons of benefits so that they’ll never work again. And most of all, let’s elect her so those stupid, clueless,evil conservatives can have all their nasty guns taken away and we can finally bring them to heel and understand that WE, and WE ALONE, not some silly invisible God, are their true masters!”

Uh...no.


38 posted on 01/11/2017 4:32:33 PM PST by hoagy62 ("It's not the whole world gone mad. Just the people in it.")
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To: dware
You want a new election, fine. Beware, it won’t be conducted with ballots.

And when the do-over is over, Donald Trump will still be President. You can take that one to the bank.
39 posted on 01/11/2017 4:32:55 PM PST by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: keat

This is the planned end game of the entire “Russian hacking “ meme; a new election,and this time Hillary knows how many votes she needs to steal.
This smells like a trial balloon to me.


40 posted on 01/11/2017 4:33:09 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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