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The Great California Earthquake of 2018: First State To Default
American Thinker ^ | January 9, 2017 | Andrew Solomon

Posted on 01/09/2017 4:57:11 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: RayChuang88

CA also has a huge military industrial complex (32 military bases). Active duty men and women are somewhat shielded from the tax burden and rising health care expenses (not totally, but somewhat), but civilians who work within the military complex are not.

Military bases in CA:

https://militarybases.com/california/


21 posted on 01/09/2017 5:39:48 AM PST by randita (PLEASE STOP ALL THE WORTHLESS VANITIES!)
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To: Spktyr

I think CA is going to be bailed out this time. As the article said the fed sends the bill to businesses who must pay. Whats yet to be explored is what happens if a business cant pay. Will they be forced to get a loan? Will the state seize their assets and auction them off? What happens if they cant get the loan or the assets dont generate enough $? What ahppens when not enough businesses stick around to get fleeced? They migth dodge the bullet this time but the end seems not far away either.


22 posted on 01/09/2017 5:40:12 AM PST by 556x45
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To: tgusa

No, do not give California to Mexico.

Instead split it into three states. Two of the states (Northern and Western counties) will be conservative red states and the other will be made up of the left wing insane coastal counties.

Then make Puerto Rico a state. The end result will be four new states. Two blue and two red.


23 posted on 01/09/2017 5:45:47 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: 556x45

I doubt they will be bailed out. There are too many people pissed off at CA right now.

What needs to be explored in court is what happens if CA defaulted on that loan and the Feds sent a bill - but CA also sends a bill. Is the business required to pay twice?


24 posted on 01/09/2017 5:51:29 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RayChuang88

That means CA should be less likely to receive assistance, not more. Texas got *none*.


25 posted on 01/09/2017 5:53:04 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Kaslin

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


26 posted on 01/09/2017 5:57:34 AM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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To: Kaslin

Notice that they did not mention this additional tax you owe until after the election.


27 posted on 01/09/2017 6:22:17 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Fai Mao

That is quite a theory. Having been in the industry for over 40 years, and specifically involved in the drilling boom of the late 70’s and early 80’s, and the busts that followed, i propose to you a better reason: all of the exploration that was done when prices expanded from $3.50 per bbl to $39 per bbl and 25 cents per thousand c.f. of gas to $10 per mcf saw the national rig rate go from 350 rigs running to over 4000 rigs running. This produced a vast oversupply of product. At the time, we in the industry thumbed our noses at the Saudis and informed them we could supply our own oil and gas, thank you very much. They responded by opening flooding the market with cheap oil and drove the price down to less than S10 per bbl, which killed our exploration and regained their market share. That is actually what happened. Early on George H.W. Bush’s term, he came to West Texas and told us (and I quote) “sorry fellas, I wish I could help you.” I was there, and this is what I heard. We did such a good job that the Saudis had to punish us. The Saudis are not as Machivellian as you think - they are businessmen when it comes to oil. We were two gas corner gas stations competing for market share, and they dropped their prices to drive us out of the exploration business.


28 posted on 01/09/2017 6:23:52 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: Spktyr

What’s the deadline for the repayment?

Will CA secede before it comes due?

What happens to the loan if they do secede?


29 posted on 01/09/2017 6:27:47 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Spktyr
Texas will gain one, perhaps two seats over California in the next redistribution.

We're adding 100K-150K in North Texas every year, and most of it is good. For example, when we moved up here 20 years ago, our local parish had 1000 families. Now, we have roughly 8000 families, and we're the largest parish in the Dallas Diocese, and the 6th largest in the country.

I've been a 6th grade catechist for 19 years (Old Testament), and our lesson this week is Ark of the Covenant, where I put on a replica of the garb worn by the Jewish High Priest.

Very few people know me by name, but those who've been through the sixth grade class know me as the High Priest...lol. We have 500+ a year in the middle school program.

30 posted on 01/09/2017 6:37:06 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: WildHighlander57

1. Don’t know.
2. One can but home.
3. I’ve seen it suggested that it should be recovered by seizing CalPERS assets in the US.


31 posted on 01/09/2017 7:04:18 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Kaslin

I am at least hopeful we will not see any bailout for kalifornia. It is time the piper is paid and consequences take their toll.

Will this extend to the kalifornia state pension system? I certainly hope so. It is far too lush as are most other public pensions.

The public employees are enjoying much better benefits and retirements than the people who are being forced to pay for both are able to afford for themselves. IT IS TIME THIS ENDS. However brutally it ends is of no consequence at all to me. I simply don’t care about anything but that this gorilla is taken off the back of the taxpayer.

When a kalifornia city manager of a small town can retire in his late 50s with almost one-quarter of a million dollars a year with built in raises and cost of living it has gone too far. When he has enough money in retirement to vacation in Scotland and play the old course at St. Andrews it has gotten obscene.

Sick and tired of the obscenity on my back.


32 posted on 01/09/2017 7:26:17 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Fai Mao

I was in Texas and Oklahom when it happened. It was bad but we made it.

It was really bad but we made it.

What doesn’t kill you makes you tougher.

Time for some others to get tough.


33 posted on 01/09/2017 7:27:58 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Spktyr

CalPERS needs to be seized but it is also underfunded I suspect.

Just too lush.

The pipe is going to have to be paid eventually. I think I can hear him tuning up.


34 posted on 01/09/2017 7:33:12 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: WildHighlander57

>>What happens to the loan if they do secede?<<

Yankee troops invade and lay waste to the land. At least, that’s what the Yankee government did when the states of the Confederacy seceded.


35 posted on 01/09/2017 7:46:24 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Make PR a state!? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!


36 posted on 01/09/2017 7:48:04 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: BobL
Instead they’ll add a few strings, like suspension of state Prevailing Wage laws, state environmental laws, and everything else they can think of that drives up costs.

Don't forget to include an audit to ensure that no benefits are going to illegal aliens.

If California deported every illegal, the reduction in load on its welfare system would probably pay for the deficit (but where would the Elites get their housekeepers and gardeners?)

37 posted on 01/09/2017 7:54:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Night Hides Not

From what I understand, Texas is under Rat pressure as well, at least in the big cities, like so many cancerous Rat enclaves. So the fact of 10’s-100’s of thousands influx is not really a good thing, unless you could card check them at the border. My intuition is that Texas is on my “watch list”, not a “sure-thing” list. I hope I am wrong.


38 posted on 01/09/2017 7:54:39 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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Fear not...the big Rat cities are not growing at the same pace as the suburbs, which are crimson. They feature better schools, housing, and strong communities. There are a few suburbs that are whiter than others, but most are diverse and very conservative (2+ to 1, R vs. D in voting).

Currently, the breakdown in the House is 25-11 Republican, not likely to change in 2018, unless the Pubbies go out of their way to screw it up.

39 posted on 01/09/2017 8:15:17 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: tgusa

CREATE BIT COINS that can be traded for dope.


40 posted on 01/09/2017 12:40:49 PM PST by ptsal
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