Posted on 01/06/2017 10:14:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
CNN was gloating last night that this is a broken promise, but is it? Watch this short clip from late October, where Trump talks about Mexico “reimbursing” the U.S. for the cost of the wall.
In Gettysburg, Trump appears to tweak his border wall plan: the U.S. will pay for the wall, then Mexico will reimburse the U.S. for the cost pic.twitter.com/Bw2kqCniIp
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) October 22, 2016
Congress fronts the money, then Mexico pays us back. That was his position this morning, too:
The dishonest media does not report that any money spent on building the Great Wall (for sake of speed), will be paid back by Mexico later!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2017
Did people think that he and Pena-Nieto were going to hold some ceremony in advance where Mexico presents Trump with one of those big sweepstakes checks? Trump ally Chris Collins imagined payment being made this way, which also seems not so likely:
New York Rep. Chris Collins said Friday that American taxpayers would front the cost for the wall but that he was confident Trump could negotiate getting the money back from Mexico.
“When you understand that Mexico’s economy is dependent upon US consumers, Donald Trump has all the cards he needs to play,” Collins, congressional liaison for the Trump transition team, told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota on “New Day.” “On the trade negotiation side, I don’t think it’s that difficult for Donald Trump to convince Mexico that it’s in their best interest to reimburse us for building the wall.”
Imagine the U.S. freezing trade with Mexico until it coughs up payment for the wall. The way “payment” will be made, if it’s made, is through a combination of accounting tricks in trade deals, impounding some remittances sent to Mexico by illegals in the U.S., and, if all else fails, claiming that American jobs that were headed south of the border but ended up staying here during Trump’s presidency is itself a form of payment by Mexico. Plus, parts of “the wall” have already been built over the past 10 years via the fencing that’s gone up along different parts of the border. Trump will end up taking credit for that and including it as part of his wall because, well, he’s Trump.
His team is taking the position that Congress doesn’t need to pass a new law authorizing the wall because the law it passed in 2006 creating a border fence already gives him the power he needs to build it. The catch, as noted above, is that someone still needs to pay for it, and that someone (for the moment) is Congress. Question: Would Schumer and the Democrats attempt to filibuster an appropriations bill that includes money for the wall if Trump doesn’t give them a concession on legalization in return? The church of comprehensive reform, of which Schumer is a devout member, holds that all new enforcement measures must be balanced by new legalization measures to keep the left happy. If Trump gets his money for the wall and Democrats get nothing in return, amnesty shills will come to Schumer demanding to know why. On the other hand, appropriations bills are must-pass bills; even if he wanted to filibuster, he wouldn’t be able to do it forever. And given the realities of 2018, he might not be able to mount a filibuster in the first place. There are plenty of red-state Democrats whose seats are up in two years who’ll be nervous about blocking the border wall. It’s true that the wall hasn’t polled well thus far (although the polling typically asks about a wall across the entire border, which isn’t in the offing), but a Democrat who’s running for reelection in a state Trump won doesn’t care what national polling has to say on this.
Interesting bit in this AP story about the wall: Do border hawks maybe want Congress to have to vote on the wall?
However, some immigration hard-liners have already expressed the desire to see Congress take a vote given how prominent the wall was during Trump’s presidential campaign, and their desire to act on the issue.
If you think the wall will be popular once it’s up, why not force Democrats to go on record against it by demanding that Congress pass a standalone bill approving a new wall? If Schumer filibusters that bill, you’ve got some attack-ad material for 2018 and you can still fall back on the approach described above, that the new bill isn’t actually necessary because the wall was already authorized in 2006. Democrats might sue over that, but then they’re probably going to sue anyway. So why not hold a new vote? If you think the wall will be a political winner for Trump, make the left own its opposition.
Here’s Kellyanne Conway assuring Trump fans that Mexico will pay for the wall, don’t you worry.
.@KellyannePolls: [President-elect Trump's] going to build that wall and Mexico is going to pay for it. That hasn't changed." pic.twitter.com/Itp7GhYwUr
— Fox News (@FoxNews) January 6, 2017
Trump has been clear on this all along.
We will finance the Border Wall, build the Border Wall and Mexico will pay back the US taxpayers for the Border Wall.
It’s just like a Construction Loan.
Wasn’t the money already appropriated by Congress?
Levy taxes/fees on outbound tran$fer$ of money
The higher % of illegals the higher the levy. That way Mexico “pays” for the wall
Cmon Mr Prez Elect and congress, it is really not that difficult
I never assumed that we would give Mexico the bargaining power to hold back the building of the wall on allowing them to have the power to withhold funds. That would be a loser negotiating position and Trump would never put himself in that place. Until its built there is nothing to pay for.
How much money did Trump keep in the country when Ford and Carrier decided to stick with the winner?
Small installment. Much more to follow once the illegals/welfare cheats are booted out of the United States.
Yes but those appropriations have probably long since expired. There was speculation that legislation in place allows for the construction of fences and border security. And that can be used to allocate funding. But it would be more appropriate to have Congress allocate new and specific funds.
Exactly, with a pretty hefty interest rate to boot (as appropriate, for all the risk we've taken).
My thoughts exactly! Mexico’s squealing like stuck pigs because of the Ford deal. Seems they’re already paying for the wall.
The one time $20 billion construction cost of the wall is chump change.
The dems and media will never report this.
Think about it. Three years from now when our border is secure and the Left says Mexico didn't pay for it Trump can smile and shrug his shoulders because the majority of the voters will adore him for building the wall in the first place.
As much as I am looking forward to seeing the construction of an actual, effective border wall / fence combination; I think it’s pretty safe to say that lawsuits from every angle (particularly on environmental grounds) will drag this through the courts for years before any ground is broken. I hope to be proven wrong on this.
Sell naming rights to individuals and corporations just like ballparks, etc. Put portions of the wall up for bids. Both sides.
Great idea!
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