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Very Powerful People In The U.S. Government Want War – This Is Their Sales Pitch
Zero Hedge ^ | 1/5/2017 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 01/05/2017 11:32:48 PM PST by greeneyes

The rising hysteria about Russia is best understood as fulfilling two needs for Official Washington: the Military Industrial Complex’s transitioning from the “war on terror” to a more lucrative “new cold war” – and blunting the threat that a President Trump poses to the neoconservative/liberal-interventionist foreign-policy establishment.........

We need to understand that those who want this war will be absolutely relentless. The sales pitch will not end until they get exactly what they want.....

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalism; graham; johnmccain; lindseygraham; mccain; neocons; newworldorder; russia; trump; wwiii
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To: Eleutheria5

Still having problems limiting bold and italics.


61 posted on 01/06/2017 3:53:39 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: greeneyes

I think part of all this is to make NATO and the UN seem like they are benefit to the US. At least NATO. Saber rattling against Russia can only help NATO and the globalists therein.

Consequently, look at who is behind the push for war with Russia? The same globalists who are/were anti-Trumpers.

They have a need to get us into some sort of conflict or cold war part 2 to keep the globalist scam going.

I don’t buy the author’s premise that it is because they don’t want to lose the military budget, Trump has already promised to rebuild the military.


62 posted on 01/06/2017 3:54:32 AM PST by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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To: Bogie

There once was a tycoon named Trump
Whose enemies thought he was Gump
They did all they could
Which was more than they should
But he beat them like drums on the stump.


63 posted on 01/06/2017 4:06:30 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: sagar
>>The military is the biggest contributor to the modern technological progress.

We cannot go on using military building as the primary driver for our economy as we have done since the end of WW-II. The problem is that if you go on building for WW-4, WW-5, WW-6 etc. long enough, sooner or later itś gonna happen.

64 posted on 01/06/2017 4:14:51 AM PST by ganeemead (http://www.eurocarb18.com/wp-content/uploads/cathedral_of_christ_the_saviour.jpg)
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp

Would some of the push have to do with keeping the EU together now? All these exit votes are beginning to take place and the common enemy is RUssia. Is Russia’s stance also seeing all the immigration on their border causing them to gird up so to speak, knowing one day it will come to them too?


65 posted on 01/06/2017 4:17:54 AM PST by taterjay
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To: Eleutheria5

And oh, what happened in Haiti was rich.
The mud hut began to pitch.
The libs took a Gulfstream slitch.
It landed in Haiti in the middle of a ditch.
Which was not a healthy situation for the Wicked Witch.

33 stolen children began to twitch.
They escaped in just a stitch.

Jailed convicted kidnappers were released in a month by the Wicked Witch.


66 posted on 01/06/2017 4:23:09 AM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: Eleutheria5

Now that one is good! Great rhythm and rhyme.
imo


67 posted on 01/06/2017 4:33:05 AM PST by polly-put-the-kettle-on
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To: greeneyes

And a number of them are creating fake “Russian Hacked the Election” stories....


68 posted on 01/06/2017 4:41:28 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: greeneyes

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.


69 posted on 01/06/2017 4:48:42 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Nextrush
The Great Depression of the 1930’s ended as the USA entered the 1940’s and World War II began.

That is true, but it wasn't the war that ended the depression. It was the enormous ramping up of manufacturing that did so. America was, up until that point, lost as a people with no common goal. The leadership, FDR, like a typical democrat, tried to solve economic problems with government regulations and taxes. Didn't work.

People saw no value in working, in earning, other than just enough to get by. Nobody wanted to innovate. Nobody wanted to invest. The government had confiscated wealth. Took gold from the people. Sought to disarm them. Demonized the wealthy, what few were left. Not much different than how the Obama years have been really.

The difference now is that Trump, like Reagan before him, has the desire to reinvigorate the economy by getting the government out of the way rather than acting as an impediment to growth and innovation. Not by manufacturing warplanes and tanks, but by letting free enterprise again flourish.

70 posted on 01/06/2017 4:51:11 AM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: sagar
Military industrial complex?? Wtf is this antiwar.com? The military is the biggest contributor to the modern technological progress. From the internet to space to communications.

A Republican president, a five-star U.S. Army General, coined the term. And what he said over 50 years ago is triply true today, especially with neocons globalists controlling the puppet strings. Having a strong military for national defense is not equivalent of a military industrial complex. Trump believes in the former but not the latter. Bought and paid for Congessmen believe in the latter but no the former (the military is not just for defense of America unless her interest also coincide with those of Davos).

Btw, most on the left today-- except for some far left anti-war types-- shy away from the term military industrial complex. They have become deferential to the military. I hear the term used most often from guys who have been in the bowels of it in the military industrial complex-- first in the military and afterwards in government contractor work.

71 posted on 01/06/2017 5:14:04 AM PST by AC Beach Patrol
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To: Eleutheria5
LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Get it published in your book!

72 posted on 01/06/2017 5:15:36 AM PST by Bogie
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To: Eleutheria5

Two thumbs up!


73 posted on 01/06/2017 5:17:01 AM PST by Bogie
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To: exDemMom
I was talking to my wife about that very subject. Can you imagine the snowflake melting under all that trauma? The George Washington bridge is gone, not to mention the San Francisco Bay bridge.

But hey, when law and order starts to break down, it's those people in the NRA who take the helm.

The city dudes can't shoot strait.

74 posted on 01/06/2017 5:28:06 AM PST by Bogie
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To: Nextrush

People had jobs—making stuff that was being shipped abroad and getting blown up.

No cars, no appliances, very little civilian housing, were made from 1942-46.


75 posted on 01/06/2017 5:38:34 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: greeneyes

Bkmk


76 posted on 01/06/2017 5:38:51 AM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: ModelBreaker
I can at least understand an argument for war based on Crimea or the Ukraine or Syria. There’s something at stake although not, imo, enough to go to war. But this hacking thing. I guess what our bad guys are saying is that, of course, all nation states hack one another to their heart’s content. Russia’s sin was hurting an entrenched political establishment with the results of the hack. They should be used only for private intelligency type things. That’s the very best case I can make for war over hacking and it completely sucks. The wars in Iran were about WMD and tortured ladies is Kuwait. ISIS was about beheadings. Syria about very valuable pipeline control. So there’s some meat there. But misuse of hacked materials that they all do just doesn’t come close to a causis belli.

Syria about an oil pipeline? BS. It's been in the neocon playbook for decades (A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm). In Syria you are supporting jihadist slaughtering Christians and other non-Islamists.

Ukraine? A leftist neocon coup (Victoria Nuland Kagan) to overthrow a duly elected government? A coup designed to subvert and weaken Russian intervention against jihadis in Syria and Russia in general?

Crimea? Really? The territory that borders Russia and has had 20k Russian soldiers based there for a century and who in 2014 had 97% of Crimeans vote to rejoin Russia in a referendum watched by international observers. I wonder how many Russians would consider going to war if Puerto Rico becomes a U.S. state?

Please turn off Fox News. It's a joke and globalist. But then again, maybe you and others are entertained by neocon Charlie McCarthys so have at it.

77 posted on 01/06/2017 5:40:21 AM PST by AC Beach Patrol
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To: sagar

Check out this raging peacenik going off about the military industrial complex!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU


78 posted on 01/06/2017 5:49:02 AM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: Arthur McGowan

You are right in terms of the rationing but in terms of jobs, if that is most important, everyone had one during WW 2.

Years ago I heard the story of a fellow who was Waffen SS during WW 2 and he just loved the fact that when Adolf was running the show back in Germany then everyone ‘had a job’.

WW 2 created the ‘military industrial complex’ Eisenhower would make reference to in his speech as POTUS.


79 posted on 01/06/2017 5:49:11 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: AC Beach Patrol

You got a 100% on that one.


80 posted on 01/06/2017 7:43:05 AM PST by Bogie
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