Posted on 01/04/2017 11:51:57 AM PST by Kaslin
I find it at LEAST mildly ironic that the guy who tried to forge documents in an effort to attack President Bush is telling the media to hold someone else accountable for “lying.”
Does Dan have a Word document he’s referring to?
Still making stupid similes, I see.......old habits die hard................
Wow, breathtaking for sure! The liberal talking heads accuse but there are no concrete charges, at least in the article. It certainly comes across as a smear/innuendo. OTOH we know Rather is a discredited liar. Thats liar in every sense of the word...as in consciously meant to deceive. What is it with these guys? Do they have short memories, thing we’re fools, have no shame? Certainly they arent acting like adults.
This accusation of lying from Dan “False but Accurate” Rather is as outrageous as Brian Wilson worrying about “fake news.” TV news readers should realize that no intelligent viewer believes anything they say.
NO YOU DIDN’T YOU SACK ‘O CRAP - YOU MADE UP A FAKE STORY AND REPORTED IT AS TRUTH.
Let’s be real here. I am all about truth, even if it doesn’t make us look good.
Rather was onto the truth. W Bush was a total flake in the Guard. He used MANY excuses to miss showing up. Daddy had to come up with all kinds of crap to keep him “politically viable.” Let’s admit that Rather was right: his evidence was FAKE but the story was accurate.
Yaelle, what is your proof? Or should we just accept your word on it? If we accept your word, why don’t we accept the word of Dan Rather?
What is your proof that the story was “accurate”?
Rather was lying to Americans with impunity for years. He was quite comfortable in the practice as were many others.
The heart of the story was the fake news, not Bush’s flaws.
The book “Family of Secrets” was very revealing. Young W was not the greatest example of human responsibility or morality. Does that even surprise you? He got off a lot of Guard time just for “helping his father’s campaign.” He was technically AWOL sometimes too but Daddy got it covered up.
Of all the Bushes I think I like W best. But he’s still a Bush and it’s an evil family, been up to no good for a very long time.
Point is, Yaelle, you want it to be true, and it may be true (as many things are without hard evidence) but if you want to draw the line somewhere, where are you going to draw it?
If we decide your word is good on the absence of proof, then...who decides whose word is good?
The Republican Party? The Democratic Party? Obama? Yaelle?
“Gut check moment for the press” has been and gone. "The press” flopped miserably, showing itself as nothing other than an adjunct of the DNC. It is now the time of free and independent presses.It is arrogant to claim objectivity. Now is the time for the journalist who will actually try to be objective - and claim nothing more than that. The journalist who claims actual objectivity cannot be candid about the reasons why he actually might not be objective - and thus, in good faith, cannot even be trying to be objective. Let alone be an exemplar of objectivity.
Today, Rather is no more than obscure fool desperately trying to appear relevant...which he is not.
Dan doesn’t seem to get that something isn’t a lie because HE says it’s a lie.
Proof, Dano - no more ‘it’s not the nature of the evidence but the seriousness of the charge’. Those days are past.
I might or might not agree with all or some of your post there...I certainly think there are aspects of his conservatism (and his family) I now find repugnant in retrospect (and did at the time) but that isn’t really my issue in this case.
I don’t want to make this an issue with a Freeper like you, as I have followed your postings for some time and appreciate your viewpoint, on this specific thing, I simply didn’t accept the premise of your initial post.
No one on this site knows exactly how responsible and conscientious George W Bush was during his National Guard duty. We all synthesize our knowledge we get from sources and come up with our beliefs. We weren’t there.
So don’t be silly.
And I believe he was not responsible and conscientious about those Guard duties. You might come to another conclusion.
Agree, Radix, the fact that Bush was flaky with his Guard service doesn’t lessen the fact that Rather was and is a dishonest partisan hack.
The 'Endorsements' for the book include:
Dan Rather
Gore Vidal
Bill Moyer
Looks like you are siding with Dan Rather after all.
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