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NY Times: Scrap the Electoral College because of slavery
American Thinker ^ | December 23, 2016 | J. Morsolo

Posted on 12/23/2016 4:38:48 AM PST by Kaslin

The New York Times endorsed the election of presidents by popular vote in the 50 states plus the District of Columbia. The Times resorts to playing the race card by arguing that the original reason for the Electoral College was to favor the Southern slave states:

The Electoral College, which is written into the Constitution, is more than just a vestige of the founding era; it is a living symbol of America's original sin. When slavery was the law of the land, a direct popular vote would have disadvantaged the Southern states, with their large disenfranchised populations. Counting those men and women as three-fifths of a white person, as the Constitution originally did gave the slave states more electoral votes.

This race argument is based on the essays by attorney Donald Applestein and Yale law professor, Aklhil Amar, who argue that counting each slave as three fifths of a person added to the population of the slave states, thereby giving the slave states more representatives in the House and therefore more electoral votes than it would have if slaves were not counted.

The Times is linking the argument for a popular vote election to labeling the Electoral College as a living symbol of slavery that must be abolished. We fought a civil war to end slavery, but the Times dredges up slavery as reason to endorse the popular vote.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; electoralcollege; hillaryrottenclinton; newyorkslimes; tds
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To: KavMan

I will not ever seriously consider getting rid of the electoral college.

The EC prevents the tyranny of the majority.

We are not a democracy and we are not meant to be a democracy. We are a republic.


21 posted on 12/23/2016 5:04:25 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Kaslin

Would that be the same Electoral College that twice gave the presidency of the US to B. H. Obama?


22 posted on 12/23/2016 5:04:38 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: Kaslin

If we want to get to the root of our “original sin” then the solution is obvious. We need to ban the Democratic Party and this country’s obssession with cheap illegal labor. Recently I was down south, in the land of cotton, and guess who is working those fields? Illegals.


23 posted on 12/23/2016 5:07:48 AM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: xkaydet65

Exactly. Well stated.


24 posted on 12/23/2016 5:08:17 AM PST by Blennos ( As)
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To: USCG SimTech
See the map below. The dirty secret is the NY Times is advocating an Islamic takeover of America.

Concentrate muslims in population centers where they can infiltrate local governments, then abolish the Elecctoral College to empower those States to set policy for the rest of the country. e.g. Mosques, Loudspeaker Calls to Worship and Sharia


25 posted on 12/23/2016 5:11:46 AM PST by Eddie01 (Comment Removed by Moderator)
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To: just me

They fail to mention Bill Clinton won only 42% of the votes. Without the EC, he would have lost the run off and never would have been president.


26 posted on 12/23/2016 5:12:25 AM PST by wrench
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To: Kaslin
This is such a laughable, non-argument.

First, in case the media hasn't heard, there is no legal slavery in the United States any more. There's no more 3/5's count of slaves. The electoral college is determined by the number of Representatives and Senators, with 2 Senators from each state and Representatives apportioned by population.

27 posted on 12/23/2016 5:13:51 AM PST by cincinnati65
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To: wrench

The NYT relates to RICH libs, the average JOE never reads it.

SCRAP the NYT.


28 posted on 12/23/2016 5:14:28 AM PST by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: Kaslin
Hey NYTIMES! Remember the National Census during Obama’s first years of tyranny? Obama was in charge of it. If he decided to stuff any states with extra immigrant voters after that... they didn't count for anymore electoral votes, just more useless popular votes if the state was already leaning left.
29 posted on 12/23/2016 5:14:33 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: wrench

The NYT relates to RICH libs, the average JOE never reads it.

SCRAP the NYT.


30 posted on 12/23/2016 5:14:33 AM PST by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: Kaslin

FAKE NEWS! GET YER NY TIMES FAKE NEWS HERE! READ ALL ABOUT IT! TRUMP LINKED TO SLAVE OWNERS! ELECTED BY RACISTS! FEAR SPREADS! HOT OFF THE PRESSES! GET YER NY TIMES FAKE NEWS HERE!


31 posted on 12/23/2016 5:15:25 AM PST by Awgie (Truth is always stranger than fiction.)
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To: Kaslin

I am worried that the Left Wing is taking this race baiting/racism a bit too far. It’s already causing killings and loss of time money and manpower to investigate things that do not exist. And all this because the Democrats, the Party of slavery, the party that even now wants cheap labor that can be exploited to come here from Central America, lost an election.

This same party, the Democrat party, was funded by the Saudis, who regard women as less than the value of a camel. The Saudis, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait and China “donated” millions to the Clinton Foundation for Hillary or use during her election run. Countries that have the worst records of slavery, abuse and harsh treatment of women and somewhat slavery.

So for the Press to be calling for the elimination of the Electoral System because they lost and blaming that system on Slavery, an institution that the Democrat Party appears to still be attracted to, is just hogwash. That party wants to enslave middle America to adhere to their beliefs or be subjected to harsh punishment and retribution for not obeying the Democrat Task Masters.

Racism, it caused the Democrats to want to secede in 1861, and it’s causing them now to want to secede because in fact the Democrats never really gave it up, they just sat back silently achieving power until this day. California claiming to be a sanctuary state just means they have agreed to use slave labor from Mexico and abandon the Federal laws on slavery.

I’m sorry if anyone disagrees with me here. I am tired of the Democrats blaming everyone else for what they hold dear to their hearts and want to achieve in the US.


32 posted on 12/23/2016 5:15:34 AM PST by realcleanguy
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To: Kaslin
I get it, so what the NYT is saying is that if Trump had won the Popular Vote but lost the Electoral College that they would have demanded that Trump be awarded the Presidency!
33 posted on 12/23/2016 5:15:48 AM PST by profit_guy
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To: Kaslin
I wonder does the New York Times realize that if you subtract out California and four of five boroughs of New York city, Trump wins the popular vote going away nationally. Do you REALLY want just two states determining the Prsidency?
34 posted on 12/23/2016 5:16:37 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Kaslin

Because the rest of the US doesn’t hate CA and NYS enough yet. Sigh.


35 posted on 12/23/2016 5:17:45 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Kaslin

One million illegal aliens in L.A. County alone and not one of them voted? Color me “disenfranchised.”


36 posted on 12/23/2016 5:18:07 AM PST by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: RayChuang88

Thank you for not lumping Upstate NY in there!


37 posted on 12/23/2016 5:18:40 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Kaslin

Next, the Times will come out for insisting that the Cleveland Indians be declared co-champions with the Chicago Cubs because in the 7 games of this year’s World Series both teams scored an equal total of 27 runs.


38 posted on 12/23/2016 5:18:47 AM PST by McBuff
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To: Kaslin

Scrap the NY Times because it’s associated with treason.


39 posted on 12/23/2016 5:19:25 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Falcon4.0

It takes a Constitutional Amendment with ratification by the States to scrap it.

Good luck with that as the ‘Fly Over” states know it would mute their voice in the process and none of them will sign up for that.

This election only proves the wisdom of the founders to make sure everybody is a part of the process and not just a few big cities.


40 posted on 12/23/2016 5:24:19 AM PST by Jimmy The Snake
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