[Mr. Douglas]

There are scriptural testimonies to something that might be called a living death.

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I consider the words “living death” to be an oxymoron within the context of scripture. Especially with all the scripture that juxtapose death with immortality. It’s actually really clear, unless it violates some other preconceived notion the reader needs to support that contradicts the plain language.

An example would be the plain language regarding Jesus’ brothers. But if you believe Mary NEVER had sex, then it has to somehow be interpreted to mean something else. Hence the “relative, rather than brother” interpretation.

[HiTech RedNeck]

It started with Eden. In the day of their disobedience they would “die.”

Well just look at what that entailed. QED... I don’t need to make this long winded. Thanks for playing, though.