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Trump Could Create Long Term Majority – And Change Politics as We Know It
GP ^ | December 17,2016 | Jim Host

Posted on 12/17/2016 8:28:46 AM PST by Hojczyk

Top pollster Frank Luntz – who was not a Trump supporter – told Sean Hannity tonight that Trump could create a permanent Republican majority.

Frank Luntz: I did not think Trump had a good chance. But I thought he was absolutely viable because of what he said and how he said it… If Trump can keep this majority of these new voters who have never voted Republican before and bring back some of those Republicans from the suburbs who voted for Clinton but voted Republican all the way down the line this is a long term majority. He has a chance to change politics as we know it if he can keep both of these two groups together and he has the ability to do it.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; luntz; trumpagenda; trumptransition
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To: Vendome

You are confused. It’s the Senate, not the House that has 33 seats up for election. And if the Republicans gain 10 seats in the Senate, that makes 52 + 10 = 62 seats, which, in theory could end the filibuster. Given McCain, Graham, McConnell, and 6-8 others, no filibuster will be on a law-by-law basis.

All 435 seats are up every 2 years in the House. The Republicans could gain 20 seats, lose 20 seats, or anywhere in-between, in 2018. Unless the Republicans go under 225 in the House, it should not make any practical difference, as anything that can pass the Senate should sail through the House. Yet, the bigger the Republican majority, the shorter the bench for the Demonrats.

The Demonrats hold only 16 governorships after the 2016 election, and several of these have little to no chance of becoming President (e.g. Jerry Brown will be 82 in 2020. Jay Nixon lost in 2016, and has an unfortunate name for a Demonrat. Tom Wolf, governor of Pennsylvania, will turn 72 in 2020. Terry McAuliffe appears to be the early front-runner, depending on whether his long-time Clinton connection will be helpful in 2020.


81 posted on 12/17/2016 11:39:34 AM PST by bIlluminati (Who is Horatio Bunce?)
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To: KyCats

We have to push hard to favor the interests of black citizens over those of illegal aliens. That will create a split in the Democrat base that they will have to abandon Socialism to recover from.


82 posted on 12/17/2016 11:43:45 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Hojczyk
IMO, Trump needs to careful about things that the media and the 'Rats will demagogue to death. It doesn't mean that these shouldn't be done, but they need to be well planned:

1. 0bamacare repeal - we need to have a well-considered transition plan for those few individuals that actually did benefit from it. The left wing media sob stories of people losing benefits will 'write themselves': we need to have a solid refutation for them.

2. Social issues: we should not overreach and swing the pendulum too hard the other way. For example, there should be no push from the DOJ to nullify state MJ legalization. The demagoguery of the media and the left in response to that would be deafening, and it would pi$$ off a lot of libertarian-minded conservatives, too.

83 posted on 12/17/2016 11:49:03 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Hojczyk
He is correct, but he doesn't list good reasons himself.

1. The democrat bench is small and going to get smaller. 2018 will have more democrat senators up for re-election in red states than republican senators up for re-election in blue states. Republicans should pick up senators.

There are two governorships that can be picked up in 2018 as well.

There are a lot of leftists in the executive branch now under Obama. The executive branch will be cleaned out and have republican replacements.

2. The democrats will have substantially less money going forward. Trump and his cabinet have four years to examine every expenditure of the government and cut the funding of anything which is just a leftist boondoggle. Trump can eliminate public sector unions, which is an exclusive funding source to democrats. If the 31 republican governors go after the teacher's unions like Scott Walker did, it would dry up a substantial amount of funding to the democrat party.

3. Unlike any other republican president, Trump understands that the democrat party is a loose association of groups that when looked at logically, shouldn't be together. Blacks and illegal immigration supporters don't go together, and neither to blue collar type and illegals.

Trump sees this and has decided to amputate blacks and blue collar white from the democrat party. This has already been partially successful, but Trump has plans to do more.

He is not going after the illegals, but will move against them, including their funding sources. This will shrink their population. By 2018-2020, the republican base will be bigger, and the democrat base will be smaller.

84 posted on 12/17/2016 11:55:40 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: central_va
They have been staying home since '92.

A cohort that hasn't pulled the lever since '88 and couldn't swing the popular vote in 2016?. Will they still be alive in 2020?

85 posted on 12/17/2016 12:02:08 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Hojczyk
Top pollster Frank Luntz – who was not a Trump supporter...

It was my understanding that he didn't expect Trump to win but that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't privately support Trump. If he didn't, who did he support?

86 posted on 12/17/2016 1:38:28 PM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: Hojczyk

Trump has shown Republicans how to win, but will they be smart or stupid and mess it all up.


87 posted on 12/17/2016 1:39:55 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Hojczyk

excerpt: “Republicans from the suburbs who voted for Clinton but voted Republican all the way down the line...”

These need to be counted and looked at - many voters caught the machines switching their Trupm vote to Clinton - howmany didn’t catch it when they voted straight ticket all the way downand then,thinking all was ok , pressed enter - and never knew it had switched?

These need to be looked at....

Maryland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O3u4SMDRmI

Texas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O3u4SMDRmI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O3u4SMDRmI

n. cAROLINA

Chicago - in primaries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O3u4SMDRmI

BERNIE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS - they lost because of Hillery and 8 yrs of Obama

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/eric-scheiner/bernie-slips-trump-ran-against-most-unpopular-presidential-candidate-history


88 posted on 12/17/2016 1:41:30 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does)
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To: maine-iac7

Look what happened after Reagan...Bush tossed the Reagan agenda the first day


89 posted on 12/17/2016 3:50:57 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

I hope it will be true...Donald, please hire me for the USSC, thank you. I’d love to discuss issues with Ginsberg, but are you sure she is alive? I’ve seen livelier dead people.


90 posted on 12/17/2016 6:59:34 PM PST by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: Hojczyk

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No matter what Trump does it won’t matter for long.

All governments of men end at the day of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 2024 (or 6024 if you prefer the ancient date.)

Man’s shebang is close to over.
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91 posted on 12/17/2016 7:07:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Texas Eagle

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>> “I’m fairly certain we were being told the same thing after we elected George W. Bush.” <<

Not so.

>> “2 years later, we lost The House and Senate.” <<

Again, not so.

That didn’t happen until ‘06.

That was what caused the crash.
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92 posted on 12/17/2016 7:12:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Poison Pill

Reagan Democrat is a generic term for rust belt blue collar forgotten people. Has nothing to do with age.


93 posted on 12/18/2016 5:22:14 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Has nothing to do with age.

Every year the white birth rate goes down. Today it's the lowest of the four main ethnic groups in the country. Every year white working class voters get older. That's just a fact. Take a look at Reagan's 2 victories. +10% popular vote in 1980. +18% in 1984 with 525 EVs.

Republicans won 3 times in the last 5 tries for the White House, but in 2 of those 3, including 2016, we couldn't swing the popular vote.

In 1984 Regan won Texas with 63.6% of the vote. In 2012 that margin was down to 57.17%. In the 2016, 52%. Trump won by 36 EVs. Texas awards 38 EVs. See where were going?

Given those demographics, I'm not so sure that calling fellow Republicans traitors and agitating for their removal from the party is a winning strategy.

94 posted on 12/18/2016 7:10:08 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Hojczyk

And if he can kick out the 30 million illegally imported leftist voters, stop family chain migration, anchor babies, the immigration lottery, cheap labor visas, etc.


95 posted on 12/18/2016 7:20:55 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Poison Pill
A quality message of pro American economic policies of lower income tax rates, tariffs and reduced regulatory burden would appeal to all demographics except one - globalist elitist corporate Free Traders.

Demographics don't matter if the message is good one. If the Republican start to play the gender, skin tone, age game they will lose because in that arena they are rank amateurs compared to the DemonRat Party.

So If the globalist Free Traitors™ think it will be business as usual by re-establishing the status quo then they may be right. If that were to happen it means then it means a quick end of the "Trump" revolution and back the the dreary status quo of de industrialization followed by socialism. Which may be what Free Traitors™ want. I see nothing so far indicating the contrary.

96 posted on 12/18/2016 7:23:07 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Demographics don't matter if the message is good one.

Well, Trump sent the message. By definition, an elite are vastly outnumbered. If the appeal is so good for everyone, why the failure to win the popular vote? Why the continued decline in Texas? Did they hear but not believe?

97 posted on 12/18/2016 7:38:58 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

Man, you sound like a Democrat.


98 posted on 12/18/2016 7:50:05 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

You’re seeing my comment from the viewpoint of the elite powerful... that’s not where I’m coming from.


99 posted on 12/18/2016 7:53:11 AM PST by GOPJ ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats". P.J O'Rourke)
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To: central_va

Funny, that’s how I see you.


100 posted on 12/18/2016 7:55:06 AM PST by Poison Pill
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