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To: Nero Germanicus
A birth certificate is “self-authenticating” under the Federal Rules of Evidence if it has the signature of a custodian and a seal or if it is testified to be authentic by its custodian.

And once again, you are talking "legal" jiggery-pokery while I am talking about factually true.

I do not give a D@Mn that rules assert that we should simply accept bogus crap put down on paper. As I have constantly pointed out, *I* posses an authentic birth certificate issued by a state, and it contains all sorts of non-truthful information on it.

What the "Federal rules of Evidence" do not do is make the truth out of non-truth, and we should be concerned with nothing else.

In order to invalidate a birth certificate, probatve evidence of a birth somewhere else would need to be presented.

The US Constitution does not require that someone else prove a man is unqualified. What it requires, or what it would require in a COMPETENT society, is for the man seeking the office to PROVE he is qualified.

What we have nowadays are a collection of disinterested fools in positions of legal authority refusing to do their D@MN job because they don't want to, and then making up legal sounding bullsh*t to alleviate them of any responsibility to do their jobs.

Had Obama been a white Republican, he would have had the entire media, all the Democrat lawmakers and many Democrat lawyers on his @$$ telling him that what he had provided was not good enough.

But because he is a black Democrat, nobody wanted to do their jobs.

313 posted on 12/19/2016 11:27:29 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

A president qualifies by winning a majority of the votes of the Electors.

If over eight years challengers to a candidate’s qualifications are unable to convince the courts, congress or 50 states’ Chief Elections Officials of their allegations, then there is no other recourse that I can think of.

American voters had the opportunity to rule on Obama’s qualifications, twice.


316 posted on 12/19/2016 11:49:47 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: DiogenesLamp

“And once again, you are talking “legal” jiggery-pokery while I am talking about factually true.”

For the record, I don’t consider Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution to be “legal jiggery-pokery.” The Full Faith and Credit Clause was the Founders’ way of preventing chaos from state to state with regard to public acts, records and judicial proceedings.


317 posted on 12/19/2016 12:01:06 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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