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To: DiogenesLamp

“And once again, you are talking “legal” jiggery-pokery while I am talking about factually true.”

For the record, I don’t consider Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution to be “legal jiggery-pokery.” The Full Faith and Credit Clause was the Founders’ way of preventing chaos from state to state with regard to public acts, records and judicial proceedings.


317 posted on 12/19/2016 12:01:06 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
For the record, I don’t consider Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution to be “legal jiggery-pokery.”

It is when you try to cite it in a defense of fake birth certificates. It is well known that about 100,000 birth certificates are issued each year containing false information.

It is reasonable to accept such documents as having been issued by a state, but this does not make the information contained on them true, and most especially not when it is this particular state that has probably the most lax admission standards of any of the 50 states.

These fake birth certificates may be acceptable for most normal issues of law, but the Presidency has further requirements demanded by the US Constitution and which cannot be met by accepting fake information as true through an appeal to Article IV.

It is the attempt to use what constitutes a legal loop hole to circumvent Article II that is the "jiggery-pokery."

If Article II comes into conflict with Article IV, it is Article IV which must give way.

327 posted on 12/19/2016 12:33:25 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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