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Trump says 'nobody really knows' if climate change is real
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | December 11, 2016 | Juliet Eilperin

Posted on 12/11/2016 7:16:32 PM PST by artichokegrower

President-elect Donald Trump said Sunday that "nobody really knows" whether climate change is real and that he is "studying" whether the United States should withdraw from the global warming agreement struck in Paris a year ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; trump
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"Who believes in global warming?" and soliciting a show of hands, Trump concluded that "nobody"


There is a big difference in accepting human caused global warming and climate change. It's not known if the climate is warming but climate change is constantly occurring. Nowhere in the article does it quote Trump directly commenting on climate change.

1 posted on 12/11/2016 7:16:32 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I know it’s not real and a lot of obamaturd.


2 posted on 12/11/2016 7:17:54 PM PST by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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To: artichokegrower

AGM

Anthroprogenic Global Warming


3 posted on 12/11/2016 7:18:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: artichokegrower

If it wasn’t for global warming Chicago would still be under a mile of ice.


4 posted on 12/11/2016 7:19:24 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both)
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To: artichokegrower

CAGW is false.


5 posted on 12/11/2016 7:22:27 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: artichokegrower

The vast majority of anthropomorphic global warming/climate change ‘believers’ have no scientific background upon which to judge the existing science, but because the democrats and the news media have endorsed anthropomorphic climate change as indisputable fact, many jump on the bandwagon and say ‘the science is settled’ - even though they couldn’t personally defend that position scientifically. Yet they point fingers at those who don’t believe the hype, or who think the jury is out, and characterize them as the equivalent of ‘Flat Earth’ believers.


6 posted on 12/11/2016 7:23:23 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: artichokegrower
Related, with 175+ replies:

Contradicting settled science, Donald Trump says "nobody really knows" on climate change

7 posted on 12/11/2016 7:23:41 PM PST by upchuck (Obama once thought that he belonged to the ages. Now he belongs in the rubbish bin. h/t D.Greenfield)
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8 posted on 12/11/2016 7:24:36 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

There’s a reason you can see the chicago city skyline from sea level 50 miles away. Just saying.


9 posted on 12/11/2016 7:25:11 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: BenLurkin

Thank you for that. And climate does in fact change over time. Just not caused by human action.


10 posted on 12/11/2016 7:25:11 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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Nobody knows and nobody can know. In order for that we would need a control study--one earth with humans and another without, and then study the differences. Unfortunately we're fresh out of earths.
11 posted on 12/11/2016 7:26:07 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: FreedomStar3028

See Level, maybe. Though L. Mich. looks like an inland sea, it’s 100s of feet above sea level.


12 posted on 12/11/2016 7:29:52 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: artichokegrower

The climate has been changing since the earth was formed.
It has been both glacial and tropical here in Virginia where I live.
The temperature was considerably warmer than today during the Minoan civilization and during the Roman period.
Man does not cause fluctuations in temperature.
The source of all heat on earth does.
It’s called the Sun.


13 posted on 12/11/2016 7:30:38 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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“There’s a reason you can see the chicago city skyline from sea level 50 miles away.”

LOL!

Yes, because the average curvature of the Earth is about 8 inches per mile, thus at 50 miles you would lose ~ 400 inches (e.g. ~33.3 feet) from the viewable horizon. The Sears Tower is ~1470 feet to the ‘roof’ and over 1700 feet to the tip, and there are plenty of buildings in the Chicago skyline greater than 33.3 feet tall..


14 posted on 12/11/2016 7:31:56 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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AGM?

CA....

15 posted on 12/11/2016 7:32:10 PM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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But, but, but 97% of scientists ...


16 posted on 12/11/2016 7:33:35 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: Paladin2

Doesn’t change the fact that you shouldn’t be able to see any part of the buildings of the Chicago skyline across L.Michigan from 50 miles away. Much less the entire skyline from top to bottom. Or that the horizon is still level 20 miles up.


17 posted on 12/11/2016 7:33:55 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: artichokegrower

Why is it that the only “science” they say is settled relies on Computer Models that are never right???


18 posted on 12/11/2016 7:34:49 PM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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There are veritable mountains of evidence that AGW is pure horse hockey ... but this argument is all you need...

No smoking hot spot David Evans - THE AUSTRALIAN July 18, 2008

1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.

If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. So we know for sure that carbon emissions are not a significant cause of the global warming. If we had found the greenhouse signature then I would be an alarmist again.


19 posted on 12/11/2016 7:35:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Congratulations, President Donald J. Trump! - Let's MAGA!!!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

It’s actually 8 inches per mile squared.

50*50 = 2500*8 = 20,000 inches.

20,000/12 = 1,666 feet.


20 posted on 12/11/2016 7:36:13 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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