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One cannot be an effective anti-socialist, unless one is willing to acknowledge that human beings are unequal
1 posted on 12/08/2016 7:21:17 AM PST by pinochet
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To: pinochet

Equality does not mean equal results.


2 posted on 12/08/2016 7:22:33 AM PST by LukeL
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“The natural aristocracy I consider as the most precious gift of nature for the instruction, the trusts, and government of society.” - Thomas Jefferson

Let me guess, Tom...you just happen you’re part of it, don’t you.


3 posted on 12/08/2016 7:25:05 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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This is neither news nor activism. Should be in chat

Equality of opportunity not outcome


5 posted on 12/08/2016 7:25:55 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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That means, Christianity taught that human beings were unequal, despite having equal souls.

This is incorrect, Christianity never taught that humans were unequal, instead it RECOGNIZED that humans had different social status'. However, we were commanded to treat each other as brothers and sisters despite our caste, or what social status we held.

7 posted on 12/08/2016 7:31:11 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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There is equality in our being Children Of God. He gave us life and He loves us dearly.

That said, human nature is inherently unequal. Some people are better and some are worse. Some are good and some are evil.

I would not like to live in world of saints. We are meant to be imperfect and our humanity is the best part of us. A man is not a drone or a machine.

Every one deserves to be the person they were born to be. A society without real differences is not a society in which I would like to live.


8 posted on 12/08/2016 7:32:10 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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For a long time I have said that Communism is nothing but a bastardization of the Christian principle of equality.


9 posted on 12/08/2016 7:35:42 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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You raise a very important point.

The fundamental difference between the political Left and Right is that Leftists believe in the Romantic notion that humans are all basically equal, that all inequality is due to unjust social institutions, and that through social engineering we can do away with inequality. In contrast, the Right believes that humans are fundamentally unequal, and that in a truly meritocratic society, you expect there to be a hierarchy among individuals and among groups.

A belief in vs. a rejection of natural human hierarchy is why you can have both left and right-wing anarchism/minarchism and both left and right-wing authoritarianism/totalitarianism. The underlying assumptions that we make about human nature rather than specific economic or political institutions are what separate Left from Right.

10 posted on 12/08/2016 7:40:10 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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Someone is confusing equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Anyone who rejects equality of opportunity is NOT a true conservative.


11 posted on 12/08/2016 7:40:38 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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The only equality I’m concerned about is equality of opportunity. Outcomes are based on God given talent and ability and a willingness to work hard for what you want.


13 posted on 12/08/2016 7:41:36 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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No


14 posted on 12/08/2016 7:42:26 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Where's Hillary?)
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Equality of outcomes, yes.


15 posted on 12/08/2016 7:42:45 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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Conservatives try to conform their beliefs to the reality of nature. The left is trying to make people reject the realities of nature.


16 posted on 12/08/2016 7:44:18 AM PST by BRL
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No one really believes in equality.


17 posted on 12/08/2016 7:44:55 AM PST by Brilliant
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This:

“For I agree with you that there is a natural aristocracy among men. The grounds of this are virtue and talents....There is also an artificial aristocracy founded on wealth and birth...”

Completely disagrees with this:

“America’s founding fathers were not hostile to monarchy and aristocracy. They just opposed King George III.”


20 posted on 12/08/2016 7:50:52 AM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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No there is not a rejection of “equality” in the sense that every individual should be able to rise to whatever level their talents and experience allow. What is rejected is the idea that people should receive an equality of result regardless of their behavior, talent, or experience. The left has increasingly demanded that fictions be enshrined in law such as ssm insisting that homosexuality be considered “equal” though it is not in form or function but of course that does not matter. The left is about denying reality and using law as projection of power to force their views on the body politic.


23 posted on 12/08/2016 7:52:44 AM PST by Maelstorm (Free is just another word for someone else has to pay.)
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People make different decisions that lead to different outcomes. Good choices (work hard, get married, etc.) generally lead to good outcomes, while bad choices (laziness, drugs, children outside of marriage) lead to bad outcomes.

The worst thing the left has done to our society is to mitigate the natural outcome of bad choices in the name of equality, thereby rewarding and promoting behavior that is destructive to individuals and society.

26 posted on 12/08/2016 7:57:25 AM PST by servantoftheservant
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Parable of the Vineyard.. Matthew 20:1-16

16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

27 posted on 12/08/2016 8:02:12 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To answer the title question:

Equality of what? Equality of origin and ability has never existed.

Equality of opportunity, of laws and the rule of law can most certainly be accepted by conservatives.


28 posted on 12/08/2016 8:03:47 AM PST by taxcontrol
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The corollary is that wage inequality is derived from human inequality

Employers discriminate against applicants by picking those perceived as being most qualified.


30 posted on 12/08/2016 8:08:00 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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Here’s a wrench:

“Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.”—Romans 9

Amen!


31 posted on 12/08/2016 8:11:58 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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